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Iowa 15 Michigan State 13

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Do they jump past UC this week in the BCS?

 

They likely will, but they shouldn't...

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They likely will, but they shouldn't...

 

Why do you say that?

 

Based on performance vs top 25 in the BCS.

 

UC - 0 wins

 

Iowa - 3 wins: #22 Arizona, #21 Wisconsin, and #13 Penn St. Two of those were road wins. Please tell me where UC has better resume with better quality wins to justify them being ahead of Iowa.

Why do you say that?

 

Based on performance vs top 25 in the BCS.

 

UC - 0 wins

 

Iowa - 3 wins: #22 Arizona, #21 Wisconsin, and #13 Penn St. Two of those were road wins. Please tell me where UC has better resume with better quality wins to justify them being ahead of Iowa.

 

Where is the UC tight home game against a scrub? Where is any UC tight game against a scrub for that matter? At the end of the day Iowa isn't much of a threat either way. Their last second luck will run out sonner rather than later. Nice last second win against Sparty today...

I know UC has soundly beaten some teams but comparing the SOS of each, Iowa's is clearly more difficult.

I think Iowa falls in three weeks against Ohio State.

I know UC has soundly beaten some teams but comparing the SOS of each, Iowa's is clearly more difficult.

I think Iowa falls in three weeks against Ohio State.

 

Iowa will fall to Ohio State and that will end the debate with UC and Iowa.

I know UC has soundly beaten some teams but comparing the SOS of each, Iowa's is clearly more difficult.

I think Iowa falls in three weeks against Ohio State.

 

Iowa will fall to Ohio State and that will end the debate with UC and Iowa.

 

I agree that I think OSU will beat them. Which I hate because I think Iowa is just another Big 10 team that is overrated. They are not a top 10 team in the country IMO. So when OSU beats them, its going to make OSU look better than they really are because people will say they beat a top 10 team, and most likely will somehow get them into a BCS bowl again and also get beat again.

Where is the UC tight home game against a scrub? Where is any UC tight game against a scrub for that matter? At the end of the day Iowa isn't much of a threat either way. Their last second luck will run out sonner rather than later. Nice last second win against Sparty today...

 

I think UC is better, but with the system we have, Iowa deserves to be ahead of them.

I don't really think they are that overrated. There really aren't that many teams this year that are that good. I think they would put up a good fight with just about anyone right now.

 

I would argue it in the reverse. I think there are a lot of very good teams this year and therefore much parity. The "any given Saturday" argument is more apparent this year.

 

Iowa finds ways to win and that makes them an excellent team.

I know UC has soundly beaten some teams but comparing the SOS of each, Iowa's is clearly more difficult.

I think Iowa falls in three weeks against Ohio State.

 

Cincinatti falls versus Pittsburgh as well.

I was really pulling for Michigan State in this one. My wolverines are pretty much out of the question. But my second favorite is Penn State.

Cincinatti falls versus Pittsburgh as well.

No chance.

I agree that I think OSU will beat them. Which I hate because I think Iowa is just another Big 10 team that is overrated. They are not a top 10 team in the country IMO. So when OSU beats them, its going to make OSU look better than they really are because people will say they beat a top 10 team, and most likely will somehow get them into a BCS bowl again and also get beat again.

 

Well you can't put the SEC in every bowl game and if you did they would not win them all.

I think UC is better, but with the system we have, Iowa deserves to be ahead of them.

 

I think UC would beat them by two TD's, but I agree w/ you. I'm ok w/ Iowa being in front of them.

I agree. It's like Alabama. They've got a dominant defense, but the offense isn't strong enough to pull away most games, so the scores look close. Alabama absolutely dominated UT most of the day today, but because the offense couldn't get it done, they were in a precarious position at the end.

 

Let's remember that they went on the road to Happy Valley and came out with a win. Wisconsin on the road is pretty good too.

 

:thumb: They pull out close games. If you haven't had a close game by now, chances are that you haven't played anyone.

 

They likely will, but they shouldn't...

 

Based on what? They're about even to me, but I think the win at Happy Valley should be more highly regarded than anyone UC has played. After that both teams have played some solid teams, but no world beaters.

 

Why do you say that?

 

Based on performance vs top 25 in the BCS.

 

UC - 0 wins

 

Iowa - 3 wins: #22 Arizona, #21 Wisconsin, and #13 Penn St. Two of those were road wins. Please tell me where UC has better resume with better quality wins to justify them being ahead of Iowa.

 

Someone with some facts!:clap:

 

Where is the UC tight home game against a scrub? Where is any UC tight game against a scrub for that matter? At the end of the day Iowa isn't much of a threat either way. Their last second luck will run out sonner rather than later. Nice last second win against Sparty today...

 

Like I said, if you haven't had a close game by now then most likely you've played no one. Even most of the teams regarded as the best of all-time had close games. UC better than the '01 Canes, '05 Texas or USC, '08 Gators?

 

I would argue it in the reverse. I think there are a lot of very good teams this year and therefore much parity. The "any given Saturday" argument is more apparent this year.

 

Iowa finds ways to win and that makes them an excellent team.

 

Okay, how about there are alot of good teams, but no great teams? I willl agree that the overall talent level in CFB is better than its ever been because the talent is so wide-spread. But, I don't think that any team this year would have been a threat in previous years. Last years UF or Oklahoma teams would be 10-14 point favorites on any of this years squads for example.

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