January 9, 200917 yr compete every year... Carroll - USC Stoops - Oklahoma Brown - Texas Tressel - Ohio State SEC... Saban - Alabama Meyer - Florida Miles - LSU Richt - Georgia Petrino - Arkansas Nutt - Ole Miss Off to a good start... Bo Pelini - Nebraska Peterson - Boise State Leach - Texas Tech Whittingham - Utah Legends... Spurrier - South Carolina Bowden - Florida St. Paterno - Penn St. No way Spurrier should be listed in the same "Legend" category as Bowden and Paterno. He did win a NC at Florida, but he did so at a time when the SEC as a whole wasn't nearly as strong nor did it have the quality of head coaches that it has today. He failed miserably in the NFL and hasn't exactly set the world on fire at South Carolina.
January 9, 200917 yr No way Spurrier should be listed in the same "Legend" category as Bowden and Paterno. He did win a NC at Florida, but he did so at a time when the SEC as a whole wasn't nearly as strong nor did it have the quality of head coaches that it has today. He failed miserably in the NFL and hasn't exactly set the world on fire at South Carolina. Yeah, you're probably right. But anyone that can lead Duke and South Carolina to bowl games ain't to shabby. Would have been nice to have seen him at UF for 20+ seasons. He really turned that program around, (122-27-1) in 12 seasons for the Gators. Would have been interesting at UK had Schnellenberger gotten the job after Claiborne left in the late '80s. He won a NC at Miami (FL) and started the Louisville turnaround.
January 9, 200917 yr Yeah, you're probably right. But anyone that can lead Duke and South Carolina to bowl games ain't to shabby. Would have been nice to have seen him at UF for 20+ seasons. He really turned that program around, (122-27-1) in 12 seasons for the Gators. Would have been interesting at UK had Schnellenberger gotten the job after Claiborne left in the late '80s. He won a NC at Miami (FL) and started the Louisville turnaround. ^ a perfect 6-0 bowl record....not too shabby
January 9, 200917 yr No way Spurrier should be listed in the same "Legend" category as Bowden and Paterno. He did win a NC at Florida, but he did so at a time when the SEC as a whole wasn't nearly as strong nor did it have the quality of head coaches that it has today. He failed miserably in the NFL and hasn't exactly set the world on fire at South Carolina. The SEC produced 3 National Titles in a 7 year span from 1992-98. It is probably better now but it was plenty strong then too compared to the other conferences and Florida dominated it in the mid to late 90's.
January 9, 200917 yr Why? I was going by his track record at LSU and Bama, he was highly sought after before going to Alabama and also is one of the highest paid. If you look at a lot of posts, he is in their top 5 as well.
January 9, 200917 yr The SEC produced 3 National Titles in a 7 year span from 1992-98. It is probably better now but it was plenty strong then too compared to the other conferences and Florida dominated it in the mid to late 90's. During Spurrier's 12 years at Florida, the SEC won 3 National Titles. Spurrier was 6-5 in bowl games with 1 National Title. During Meyer's 4 years at Florida, the SEC has won 3 National Titles. Meyer is 3-1 in bowl games with 2 National Titles. I'm not saying Spurrier didn't do great things while he was at Florida, he did. I said he didn't deserve to be labled a legend in the same category as Bowden and Paterno. As far as active coaches go, I wouldn't put Spurrier in the top 10....maybe not the top 20.
January 9, 200917 yr Think that Myer, Saban, Mack Brown, and Pete Carroll are the 4 best. Then maybe 15 to 20 more who are fairly close.
January 9, 200917 yr I'm by no means a UK fan but I would put Rich Brooks with any of them, what he has accomplished the last three years is nothing short of a miracle. I would put Nutt up there as well now winning at his two of the bottom feeder SEC schools. Arkansas had like 5 or 6 loosing seasons in a row before Nutt took over.
January 9, 200917 yr I don't know if I could list just 5 so here is my list in no certain order. Meyer Saban Carroll Tressel Bowden Paterno B. Stoops Grobe
January 9, 200917 yr As crazy as it may sound, we may have to include Stoops in this conversation too. In ten seasons at Oklahoma, he has played in the BCS Title game FOUR times. Four times in ten seasons is unbelievable. However, he has only walked away with one championship. When they said this I couldn't believe it. I just don't recall Oklahoma being in that many of them, perhaps it's because people generally only remember the Champions after a while.
January 9, 200917 yr Paterno Bowden Carroll Meyer Tressel In this order for me, with a nod to Larry Kehres from Mt. Union who I think could do a great job at a higher level but dominates DIII
January 9, 200917 yr This thread is a lot different than the top 5 teams thread, because there are a lot of things that make a coach great. Where the bar is set with me has a lot more to do with getting the most out of what hand your dealt then necessarily championships. Pete Carroll resurrected a program. USC had been in a state like Michigan is currently in. For that, plus what he has done to elevate recruiting, his turning football practice into a science, and his sheer love and objectiveness about the game, he is great. However, there are other guys that just squeeze every ounce of juice out of lesser players. Pat Hill at Fresno St. comes to mind. I don't know how you get any better than Houston Nutt. There is a lot of room for debate in this one. I agree with you about Houston Nutt. I have heard him speak twice and he is very good. You should hear his story about when he was young and took over as head coach at Murray or Morehead or some D1AA school and the AD had a meeting called with the returning players to introduce Nutt to the team. The meeting was at 3:00 and he said that at 2:45 a few started drifting in the meeting room and it stayed that way until the last of the returning players had got there at 3:25. The AD introduced Coach Nut and he said he wanted to see everyone outside where he proceded to run the crap out of them in their street clothes. He told them that the next time they had a meeting called for 3:00 they better have their behinds in a chair at 2:59!
January 9, 200917 yr I agree with you about Houston Nutt. I have heard him speak twice and he is very good. You should hear his story about when he was young and took over as head coach at Murray or Morehead or some D1AA school and the AD had a meeting called with the returning players to introduce Nutt to the team. The meeting was at 3:00 and he said that at 2:45 a few started drifting in the meeting room and it stayed that way until the last of the returning players had got there at 3:25. The AD introduced Coach Nut and he said he wanted to see everyone outside where he proceded to run the crap out of them in their street clothes. He told them that the next time they had a meeting called for 3:00 they better have their behinds in a chair at 2:59! This story is NOT TRUE!!! But sounds cool.
January 9, 200917 yr 1. Pete Carroll-The best and biggest winner 2. Urban Meyer- Climing to the ranks of all time greatness 3. Jim Tressell- Does more with less than any other coach in the Country, IMO. They don't have the athleticism of SEC, Big 12, or Pac 10 Teams, but are always good 4. Nick Saban- I think he has the greatest knowledge about the game in college football 5. Bob Stoops- Plays in the BCS every year. Could use some better performances in big games Top 5 Up and Coming 1. Chris Peterson- The next Meyer 2. Kyle Wittingham- If you're in need of a coach at..........Tennessesee, Auburn, Washington or etc., why wouldn't you give him a look. 3. Brian Kelly- he's winning at CINCINNATI 4. Mike Gundy- Good offensive mind 5. Gus Malzahn (even if he's just an OC) produces big yards everywhere he goes and even the NFL has stolen his ideas to some extent. Top 5 overrated 1. Les Miles 2. Steve Spurrier 3. Mark Richt 4. Joe Pa (NOW)- was a great, but how much coaching does he really do anymore? 5. Mike Leach Top 5 underrated 1. Butch Davis 2. Rich Brooks 3. Paul Johnson 4. Mark Mangino 5. Gary Patterson All-Time top 5 1. The Bear 2. Knute Rockne 3. Bobby Bowden 4. Joe Paterno 5. Bud Wilkerson
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