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4A: Bell County Bobcats (14-0) vs. Bullitt East Chargers (9-5) Predictions

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I've been reading quite a bit about the running game in this thread, and people saying BE may be successful with a spread. I do not see this happening what so ever. Boyle County was a top notch team with some great playmakers, I feel liek thats why they had success with their spread, plus Bell was having to keep MacShara in check at the same time. If we can hold him to only what, 36 yards, I dont see BE's rushing game hurting us much. Plus, the D can create turnovers, and make them happen fast. As to the running game, you'll definately see it. But again, do NOT be surprised if coach Hilton puts it in the air how he did vs. Boyle County if it continues to be that succesful. Boyle had a great playmaker at safety in Aumiller, which is IMO why we didnt see Matt Raines just sprinting down the field to the deep ball as much, I dont think BE has those kinds of play makers to the caliber of Aumiller thats going to make Zachery second guess the deep ball to Raines.

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I'm like some others on here. While I want to think that Bell County would win somewhat handily, something tells me that this Bullitt East team has enough about them to maybe pull off the upset or at the least, keep the game interesting.

 

Looking at Bell's schedule and who they have played, I think that Bullitt East would most likely compare to Rockcastle County and possibly a little bit better offensively?

 

In a game like this with two run heavy type offenses and the clock running, all it takes is a couple defensive stands and a turnover or two for the game to take a swing in the other direction . If Bullitt East can do that, then who knows?

 

If you want to compare BE to Rock, of all teams Bell has played (including Boyle) that doesn't fair well for the Chargers IMO:sssh:

 

 

Oh, so after your running backs plow through the line there will be 2 linebackers and some defensive backs(that are probably being blocked anyways) to stop those diesel trucks you call running backs? I wish I could be there to cheer you guys on. Good luck Bobcats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

:laugh: Very nice. Again, I'll say it even though it cant happen and wont, I wish the Bell-Boyle game was being played Sat. instead of last week.

If you want to compare BE to Rock, of all teams Bell has played (including Boyle) that doesn't fair well for the Chargers IMO:sssh:

 

 

 

 

:laugh: Very nice. Again, I'll say it even though it cant happen and wont, I wish the Bell-Boyle game was being played Sat. instead of last week.

 

I'm sure that everyone wishes that who was involved in the game. It's like Boyle felt vs. Rockastle those two years. The Rock was a very good team but most of those Rebels felt the State final was vs. Hopkinsville the previous week. However the record books will show that whoever gets to the State Final is Champ and Runner-up and Boyle will live with that just as others have. :thumb:

I have to agree with most of the folks who've posted already. I think the outcome of last week's Boyle Co vs Bell Co. game determined the winner for this class this year. Bullitt East has a determined team, but I don't think the Chargers have the horses to beat Bell Co. (did I make a pun?)

 

If the Rebels can't be playing this week, then I'm rooting for Bell Co.

It seems to me that for a team to expect to have a shot at Bell county they would need to be able to throw the ball pretty well or have a really fast running back or two that might be able to beat Bell to the edge and break some long runs. Does anyone know if Bullit east have either of these two things.

vs Butler 48-13W (6A Butler struggled this season winning only two games late in the season but against tough competition)

 

vs DeSales 0-14L (DeSales, one of the "other" Louisville catholic schools, much smaller than St X or Trinity and on the other end of town, they do benifit from the same middle school league as X and T, they had a strong season going 10-3 but mostly played lesser competition.)

 

vs Bulliet Central 27-30L (Bullit Central is a 6A school that posted a respectable 8-3 record but lost most of there big games with the exception of this one.)

 

vs Henderson 14-50L (This was the worst loss for Bulliet East this season. Not to say a 7-4 Henderson wasn't a strong team from the 6A class, but a 5TD loss is a blight on anyones record. It is worth mentioning that this was a switched game due to the windstorm in Louisville causing Jefferson Co teams to not play, Mount Washington although in Bullitt Co is basically a Louisville suburb and I can't say whether the lasting effects of the storm did or did not have an effect on the team, but I could see where it may caused distraction)

 

vs Marion Co 13-10W (Marion Co had a strong record at 9-3 with two of those losses coming from Bullitt East. Nothing about Marion Co's competition blows me away, but 9 wins is 9 wins)

 

vs Fairdale 35-40L (Fairdale is a 4A Louisville school who usually has a handful of athletes. 6-5 Fairdale was looking respectable but took a late season nose dive losing the last three games of the season)

 

vs North Bullitt 17-14W (North Bullitt went 8-5 this season dropping two games to the Chargers. North Bullitt's only win of significance was Layfayette in the begining of the season)

 

vs Larue Co 22-19W (District opponet was Larue 4-7 and not a real strong opponet.)

 

vs Manual 23-24L in double overrtime (I would consider this a good loss for Bullitt East. 10-3 Manual is at the top of "the rest of 6A" outside of St X and Trinity, and was the best team Bullitt East faced this season and from the look at the schedule appears to be the turning point for the Chargers season)

 

vs Nelson Co 51-14W (A big win against the last of five 6A opponets that Bullitt East played. Nelson Co went 4-7 with most there wins vs lesser opponets, but short of St X Bullitt East gave them there worst loss)

 

Playoff vs Atherton 63-6W (2-10 Atherton is in perpetual rebuilidng phase, the amount of the wins is really meaningless as Atherton simply isn't competitive)

 

Playoff vs Marion Co 35-7W (rematch see above)

 

Playoff vs North Bullitt 26-7W (rematch see above)

 

Playoff vs Calloway Co 52-49W (11-3 Calloway Co averaged 37 points a game on offense and Bullitt East did little to stop them, but they did out score them with there third game of over 50 points in the season. I don't personally know all that much about football that far west and can't speak as to there schedule but they won a lot of games.

 

Some points I would make.

Bullitt East played up five times during the regular season, further more they have traditionally played many of the Louisville schools, if not during the season during the preseason in scrimmages. I don't think they come in in awe of Bell Co.

 

Bullitt East's opponets were a combined 98-70, Bell's opponets were nearly (I have an incomplete tenn team record of 2-7) 74-79. Bell played up twice and played down on three occasions.

 

The tone of the posters seems to point to a Bell Co blow out, while I wouldn't be suprised if they won, I think Bullitt East is far better seasoned than they realize.

 

 

Rowdy- Thanks so much for this information. It is REALLY helpful. Based upon these facts, I am now anticipating a much closer game. :thumb:

Even with all the information I wouldn't think that Bullitt East could compete with Bell County. Bell County plays tight defense and they will make BE look bad all day long.

I have seen Bell a few times this year and the only weakness is playing against the spread. I don't know of any team that could line up and run it on them. I am sure the Boyle QB is good but if I had the choice I would take the kid from Knox against Bell everytime. I would try to use Bell's aggressive paly against them in the ville.

Even with all the information I wouldn't think that Bullitt East could compete with Bell County. Bell County plays tight defense and they will make BE look bad all day long.

 

I could be wrong, but something tells me that this game is going to be a little bit tougher than most expect. I'll eat crow all day long if that turns out not to be the case.

 

Ever since Preston took over the offense the week of the 1st Marion County match-up it looks like the Chargers have been on an absolute role or at least getting better each week.

 

I keep looking at the match up between them and Manual in the last week of the season. Bullitt East lost to them by 1 point and it took 2 OT's. That's the same Manual team that went 10-3 this year, losing to St. X twice and a Louisville Eastern team that went 11-2 with both of their loses comming to Trinity.

 

I think it would be sweet to see Coach Hilton win his 3rd title, but I just have a gut feeling that this one might be a little bit tighter than some expect and if Bell happens to have the turnover bug hit them like Boyle did last week, then who knows?

I could be wrong, but something tells me that this game is going to be a little bit tougher than most expect. I'll eat crow all day long if that turns out not to be the case.

 

Ever since Preston took over the offense the week of the 1st Marion County match-up it looks like the Chargers have been on an absolute role or at least getting better each week.

 

I keep looking at the match up between them and Manual in the last week of the season. Bullitt East lost to them by 1 point and it took 2 OT's. That's the same Manual team that went 10-3 this year, losing to St. X twice and a Louisville Eastern team that went 11-2 with both of their loses comming to Trinity.

 

I think it would be sweet to see Coach Hilton win his 3rd title, but I just have a gut feeling that this one might be a little bit tighter than some expect and if Bell happens to have the turnover bug hit them like Boyle did last week, then who knows?

 

 

I can see where you are coming from and it makes alot of sense. However, I agree to disagree. BTW, how close are YOU expecting?

It seems to me that for a team to expect to have a shot at Bell county they would need to be able to throw the ball pretty well or have a really fast running back or two that might be able to beat Bell to the edge and break some long runs. Does anyone know if Bullit east have either of these two things.

 

I think what hurts bell the most when it comes to the spread is a team that can run good short to intermediate routes and a QB that can make some pretty quick, smart decisions. The Bell DB's give a very large cushion to the receivers on a consistent basis. As to the running back, its hard for me to see a running back being able to break the Bell D, we've seen all types of backs this year and haven't really been hurt by them. For the last few years, the kryptonite to this Bell D, IMO is a running QB. We had Henry Clay on the ropes a few years back on Log Mountain until a guy by the name of Minnifield (sure some people remember him) absolutely lit Bell up when they played him at QB, and I've seen others do it as well, I beleive Guy may have taken a few snaps at QB last year also, not sure though.

Bell Co. by 4 TD's

I am curious to see how Cissell does vs Bell's defense.

 

You have your Bullitts mixed up. Dalton Cissell runs for NORTH Bullitt...

Bell Co by 2 touchdowns, but will be a close game.

 

I keep looking at the match up between them and Manual in the last week of the season. Bullitt East lost to them by 1 point and it took 2 OT's. That's the same Manual team that went 10-3 this year, losing to St. X twice and a Louisville Eastern team that went 11-2 with both of their loses comming to Trinity.

For sake of accuracy Manual did not lose to or play Eastern, they lost to Ballard, a team they had already beaten earlier in the season, the regular season rematch was due to the windstrom that forced teams to make changes to there schedule.
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