^ That lol

I was channel surfing on XM, on my way to work, and came across a comentary I found interesting. I wish I knew who it was, it sounded like Walter Williams but I can't say for certain. He was talking about Black America(his words not mine). He said it is his hope that Obama will serve as an example to all blacks that the American Dream is available to everyone. That hard work and vision can overcome the color of ones skin. That education is paramount for success. He said he sees hope because in his life time most successful blacks, like Clarence Thomas, were viewed as "Uncle Toms" or "Aunt Jemima's". Obama, is not viewed in that way. He is held up as a beacon, and even if you don't agree with his politics he can do great good if he inspires other's from poor backgrounds: black, white, or hispanic to emulate his path.

 

I'm paraphrasing this as best I can. I had to leave my car and go to work before I heard all of it or who it was.

^ I agree. I have heard that song numerous times on the radio and a couple of friends who are black were playing it as well. I have nothing wrong with African Americans being proud of what Barack Obama has accomplished, but by continually putting it in people's faces as I feel like I have already seen in the last day and a half...it begins to wear on ya and get a little frustrating. I have the intelligence and sense to just walk away from it...but I know there are some who don't and I am afraid that could cause major issues.

 

And what's a lambo? lol.

 

As you should, telling them one of the many jokes which they open themselves up for, even if in good spirits and just in fun, someone won't care for it. I would probably not be a good example to follow as god as my witness I'm not good at just turning the other cheek.

I've always been amazed that no one seems to care that Bush appointed two black Secretaries of State, and that the second one was also a woman.

 

In fact, its been over a decade since the US had a white male SoS.

Those were the first steps towards what happened on November 4. I think you'll find that black people care a lot about the people who held those positions.

 

What I think is being missed here is how big this event really is. Think about it when this country was first formed blacks weren't even counted as whole human beings. As a matter of fact we were counted only as 3/5 of a person.

 

So I can understand why some are getting carried away.

I've always been amazed that no one seems to care that Bush appointed two black Secretaries of State, and that the second one was also a woman.

 

In fact, its been over a decade since the US had a white male SoS.

 

I haven't even thought about that, which is a good thing.

Based on the reactions that I have seen on television over and over and over, race was a major reason why Obama was elected. Most of the responses I have heard was that they voted for him because he was black and would be the first black President, something they did not think they would see in their lifetime.

 

Why are those that are supporting him because of his race not being labeled racists?

 

Is it okay to positively support someone for simply their race while it is not okay negatively?

Why should they then? 360,000 union soldiers gave their lives to the cause of reuniting the union and hence freeing the slaves.

 

Hate for any reason is wrong. Racism is always wrong. Are we all prejudiced in some way? Yep. The thing we all need to stop and do is look at the issues from the other side. I completely understand the African American vote during this election cycle. It would be no different than if someone from my part of Kentucky ran for President, the vast majority of people in this area would support them because they would feel right or wrong that they had a connection to them.

 

HB20 by the way your post on this thread have been exceptional.

 

Thank you very much.:thumb:

Your teacher is ignorant.

 

A college professor teaching a Race and Gender class is ignorant about race issues? :lol: I highly doubt that. A difference of opinion doesn't = ignorance. Someone not knowing what they're talking about is ignorance IMO.

I think what frustrates me is when I hear people my age who make comments like..."It isn't the White House anymore...let's call it the Black House". Or things of that nature. I know it might all may be a joke, and I just bite my tongue not to look like something I am not. But, I feel like comments like that are so ignorant and is the reason that a lot of prejudice is still around. The comment automatically makes me wanna fire back and it probably wouldn't be in an intelligent manner. You know what I mean?

 

I am happy for the African American community…it is very cool for them to have taken this step in history, and it’s probably good for the USA. I am not really a fan of Obama because of his policies but I do feel like he could maybe do something special for this country. With that being said, this country will still be divided simply because of comments like that, and the reactions that will follow.

 

There is a term for that type of thing. I can't remember what it is though, but we talked about in my sociology class last semester. Many times other people of your race will assume you too are racist and they feel like it is okay to make racist jokes or comments. It's very annoying IMO.

Based on the reactions that I have seen on television over and over and over, race was a major reason why Obama was elected. Most of the responses I have heard was that they voted for him because he was black and would be the first black President, something they did not think they would see in their lifetime.

 

Why are those that are supporting him because of his race not being labeled racists?

 

Is it okay to positively support someone for simply their race while it is not okay negatively?

 

We have discussed this in the thread already, probably on page one. Fact of the matter is, African Americans have voted heavily in favor of Democrats for a long time. It's no surprise that they would do the same, even more so, when the Democrat candidate is an African American.

I don't think all of those people are racist but 98-2? Ohio was the only state I saw.

 

It was 98% to 2% in Virginia.

Based on the reactions that I have seen on television over and over and over, race was a major reason why Obama was elected. Most of the responses I have heard was that they voted for him because he was black and would be the first black President, something they did not think they would see in their lifetime.

 

Why are those that are supporting him because of his race not being labeled racists?

 

Is it okay to positively support someone for simply their race while it is not okay negatively?

 

 

That's a profound statement in the bolded. If racial bias is to the positive it is generally overlooked or easily forgiven. If racial bias is to the negative it is called racism and looked at with contempt usually.

 

I think if there is a difference in why one is looked at differently than the other on Tuesday it is perhaps history.

 

The reality is there have been hundreds (maybe thousands) more blacks who died hanging from trees than there have been whites who met the same fate from mobs. That history creates a heritage that is tough to explain but an obvious factor. Now those days seem "redeemed" (maybe not the best word) as the American dream becomes reality for the legacy of those from the past.

A college professor teaching a Race and Gender class is ignorant about race issues? :lol: I highly doubt that. A difference of opinion doesn't = ignorance. Someone not knowing what they're talking about is ignorance IMO.

 

Ignorant was probably not the proper term. However, I feel sure that "biased" would most likely fit.

 

As a college professor, I am very well acquainted with those of my colleagues who teach such classes. They are biased which is fine as long as their students know to consider this fact and to take what is said as fact with a grain (or two) of salt.

 

By the way, I am biased in the law classes that I teach. My philosophy stems from the fact that I believe strongly in a very strict interpretation of the US Constitution. The only difference between us is that I admit it and so inform my students on the first day of classes. My colleagues in the social sciences do not.

One thing that really bugs me is that on FoxNews yesterday they were interviewing an African-American woman from Cincinnati and they asked her if race played a role in her vote, and she said it was most definitely one of the biggest factors. No one seems to see a problem with that. If I were to say I voted for McCain because he was white, I'd be considered racist. I don't get the double standard...

 

Because you choose not to understand. It is not really hard to see the difference.

I have seen videos of white people on the news saying that they couldn't vote for a black man.

 

In fact, I know people who have said that, unfortunately.

 

It's wrong both ways, but it happened both ways too.

 

Halfback, I think you are wrong.

 

I don't believe anyone said - "I cannot vote for McCain because he is a white man." If so, most of the 98% would be first time voters since ALL of the other elections they would have had to vote for a white man.

 

I do think there are those who said "I WILL vote for Obama b/c he is black" that is different than voting against someone b/c of their color.

 

There are also some, hopefully few who said "I cannot vote for Obama because he is black"

 

1 and 3 are racist statements, #2 means race was a factor. #2 folks did not discount McCain b/c of his race, but they lean toward Obama b/c of his.