I would honestly like to have a civil conversation on this topic. If it can't be civil then close it. I grew up in an area that didn't have much diversity. I went to college and made close friends from different backgrounds. I have since coached with guys of other races and taken a lot of kids under my wing that aren't the same color skin as me but have a heart just like mine. 2 questions I have:

1. With Obama winning the election does this show that racism is at an all time low?

2. The breakdown of Ohio showed that White folks voted I think it was 52% McCain and 48% Obama. It also showed African American voters voted 98% Obama and 2 % McCain. Is it me or would there have been a major uproar if this was flip flopped?

If this can't be discussed in an intelligent way without smearing races etc then close it. I just wonder if others question the things I do?

I read the race thing at the top of the page and don't feel like this is smearing anybody or anything. I just wonder how other Americans feel as far as our progress and if things have shifted somewhat. I continue to have close friends of different races and always will I just feel like there is a double standard sometimes.

Major uproar is an understatement.

 

Racism is alive and well, just flipped.

I have some thoughts on the issue, but will need some time to articulate it in a good way.

1.) I do think this country has came a long way in regards to racism. Is there still some problems with racism? Yes, but there always will be IMO.

 

2.) My guess is that African Americans feel they identify with Obama the most. They have never had the opportunity to vote for another African American in the Presidential elections. Whites have never had that problem. I'm not saying it's right, but I understand it.

I am currently taking a Race and Gender in Psychology class (for my minor in PSY) and according to my teacher she would answer your questions by saying "No, because all prejudice is not equal. An African American who hates whites cannot be 'just as prejudice' as a white person that hates blacks."

 

I however, don't know if I exactly understand that. I understand Obama being elected and it being a very big deal for the African American community and the United States in general because of the historical nature. But, I believe my feelings are the same as yours stick1. How does this just not scream something being wrong when 98% of African Americans voted for Obama? Confuses me a little.

Major uproar is an understatement.

 

Racism is alive and well, just flipped.

 

It goes both ways. There are still a lot of racist white people from my hometown.

It goes both ways. There are still a lot of racist white people from my hometown.

 

 

98% - 2%.....................

One thing that really bugs me is that on FoxNews yesterday they were interviewing an African-American woman from Cincinnati and they asked her if race played a role in her vote, and she said it was most definitely one of the biggest factors. No one seems to see a problem with that. If I were to say I voted for McCain because he was white, I'd be considered racist. I don't get the double standard...

98% - 2%.....................

 

That is just in Ohio, is it not?

 

And that doesn't mean that all or even any of those people are racist.

One thing that really bugs me is that on FoxNews yesterday they were interviewing an African-American woman from Cincinnati and they asked her if race played a role in her vote, and she said it was most definitely one of the biggest factors. No one seems to see a problem with that. If I were to say I voted for McCain because he was white, I'd be considered racist. I don't get the double standard...

 

I have seen videos of white people on the news saying that they couldn't vote for a black man.

 

In fact, I know people who have said that, unfortunately.

 

It's wrong both ways, but it happened both ways too.

I have some thoughts on the issue, but will need some time to articulate it in a good way.

 

That's good! I would like to know how other feel inside without slamming each other.

Sometimes I feel like I should be shamed for being a white man when I have done nothing in my lifetime to degrade the other races. In fact I've coached a lot of kids, mentored a lot of kids, taken Christmas presents to families in downtown Louisville etc for humans of other races. I guess I just get tired of people trying to make all white males feel like they are dirt for things that happened before I was alive. I have done workshops where I was the minority and it wasn't fun at all. I've been in situations where I was the minority and it wasn't fun at all. In the end my view is we are all humans and we all have a heart. I am very empathtic to what has happened in the past but I don't think it's fair to judge everybody the same. To me there are good and bad people no matter the color of skin. My heros growin up were my parents. After that it was Ronnie Lott and Michael Jordan. I never gave any thought to them being of another skin color yet when I see people not agreeing with everything Obama says I see the race card played a lot. I'll be the first to say that I am really disappointed in Bush and I voted for him. I don't know, I guess I get frustrated sometimes and wonder if others feel the same way.

We need a lot more grey....

I have seen videos of white people on the news saying that they couldn't vote for a black man.

 

In fact, I know people who have said that, unfortunately.

 

It's wrong both ways, but it happened both ways too.

 

I agree it goes both ways, but why isn't it called racism when an African-American does it?

1.)

2.) My guess is that African Americans feel they identify with Obama the most. They have never had the opportunity to vote for another African American in the Presidential elections. Whites have never had that problem. I'm not saying it's right, but I understand it.

 

That is a GREAT point!

That is just in Ohio, is it not?

 

And that doesn't mean that all or even any of those people are racist.

 

I do agree that it doesn't make them racist. But I just don't think it is right to vote for someone on the color of their skin. I don't know everything about policies and stuff, but I do know whose policy I like more. I dont' think a lot of those 98% of people could say the same.