Didnt Bench have back problems that year or was it later in his career?

 

 

Yes he did. He missed several games due to back problems. The good news is that he was healthy when he won the World Series MVP award that year.

Bench was not the #3 hitter. That was Joe Morgan. Bench split his time between hitting cleanup and #5, and occasionally in the 6 hole.

 

And Dunn is not the #3 hitter either.

Maybe if this weren't the norm for Dunn you would have an arguement, but now we're comparing Adam Dunn to Johnny Bench....You Reds fans amuse me. :lol:

 

Looking at runs produced throughout the mid 70's, for the most part Bench and Dunn are pretty similar. Is that not the job of a person in the #5 spot in the batting lineup, producing runs???

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I wished I would have left Bench's name off the list of stats. I bet you would have ripped this nameless person.

And Dunn is not the #3 hitter either.

 

 

I realize that, but the post that was quoted was advocating Dunn for the #3 hitter

I realize that, but the post that was quoted was advocating Dunn for the #3 hitter

 

Gotcha.

Bench was not the #3 hitter. That was Joe Morgan. Bench split his time between hitting cleanup and #5, and occasionally in the 6 hole.

Bench hit 7th in game 4. 2-4, 2 dingers and 5 ribbies.

Edited July 8, 200818 yr by spindoc

Looking at runs produced throughout the mid 70's, for the most part Bench and Dunn are pretty similar. Is that not the job of a person in the #5 spot in the batting lineup, producing runs???

 

Think about what you're saying here lbbc. You are seriously trying to compare Adam Dunn to Johnny Bench...What's next, a Josh Fogg Nolan Ryan comparison?

I wished I would have left Bench's name off the list of stats. I bet you would have ripped this nameless person.

 

Not if you told me, he is considered the best ever at his position, was hurt that season, and also played on WS winning team, pulling in the MVP. I wouldn't need a name just the all of the facts, which you sort of left out:lol:

Think about what you're saying here lbbc. You are seriously trying to compare Adam Dunn to Johnny Bench...What's next, a Josh Fogg Nolan Ryan comparison?

 

I am comparing their stats that are very similar.

 

You are comparing the two names and getting caught up in the romanticism of the greatest catcher of all time rather than the stats he actually produced.

 

As I said, I wish I would have left off Bench's name and your reaction would have probably been starkly different.

I am comparing their stats that are very similar.

 

You are comparing the two names and getting caught up in the romanticism of the greatest catcher of all time rather than the stats he actually produced.

 

As I said, I wish I would have left off Bench's name and your reaction would have probably been starkly different.

 

Well yeah, because logically you have to take into account the era the player played in, the position the player played, the team he was on, etc....All of which you failed to mention.

Which had the better three year run in producing runs? RBI's + RS - HR's.

 

Player A

Batting in a run producing spot and created 160 runs, 163 runs and 149 runs. Total 472.

 

Player B

Batting in a run producing spot and created 168 runs, 151 runs, and 167 runs. Total 486 runs.

Which had the better three year run in producing runs? RBI's + RS - HR's.

 

Player A

Batting in a run producing spot and created 160 runs, 163 runs and 149 runs. Total 472.

 

Player B

Batting in a run producing spot and created 168 runs, 151 runs, and 167 runs. Total 486 runs.

 

Over a 3 year span, I'd say those players stats are pretty much identical, but the same questions come into play as before.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1976.shtml

 

Johnny Bench's stats from the 1976 season.

BA .234

HR 16

RBI 74

OB .348

Slgg .394

Runs 62

 

Dunn this year

BA .228

HR 22

RBI 52

OB .386

SLgg .515

Runs 44

 

Ready to rip Bench for having such a horrible season in 1976?

Bench was also a Gold Glove catcher ... his value went a lot further than his offensive production. That isn't the case with Dunn.

Over a 3 year span, I'd say those players stats are pretty much identical, but the same questions come into play as before.

 

Why? They are both paid to produce runs batting in the 4th, 5th or 6th spots.

 

Why does the other things matter?

 

Defense would, I give you that. But offensively, they are paid to produce runs. Both of them. One is considered one of the greatest RBI men in Reds history but he is very similar in his stats for Dunner over the last 3 years. You have agreed with that.