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Who are the "Terrible Twenty" 6A coaches...

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By intentions, and I am not being a smart A, what do you feel are the "intentions" of the "private" schools.

 

I'll take a stab at this.

 

For our students to continue to be able to participate in a meaningful state playoff system in ALL sports. That can't happen if public and private schools are split because the simple truth is that there are not enough private schools to make it a meaningful playoff system.

 

I've said this before, there are two sports that Trinity has never won a state championship in, baseball and basketball. If they ever do win championships in those sports I want them to be against the best competition, public and private.

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Truth be told , I bet that X and T would not mind meeting before the finals. They would keep all of the revenue that currently goes to the KHSAA if they meet in any other round and thus be able to pump even more money into their overall athletic programs. They could charge what they want for tickets, and one of the two will probably win the title every year anyway.

 

BTW - That is the way the playoffs worked when Louisville played a State at large winner for the title. I think there were more than twenty coaches who lobbied to change that one because it was unfair that Louisville always had a finalist.

I've read these posts on this and I honestly think it's funny. For those that think T and X have such an advantage, well, they do. They get more players and they get better players. Try coming to Ludlow and being in the same district with Beechwood. They have better and more players than any of the schools in our district. We play them as hard as we can year in and year out and usually end up on the losing side. Do we like it? Of course not. Are we envious? Of course we are. But I don't want to see them leave our district either. As a Ludlow alum and fan, I want our program to strive to get where Beechwood is, year in and year out.

I'll take a stab at this.

 

For our students to continue to be able to participate in a meaningful state playoff system in ALL sports. That can't happen if public and private schools are split because the simple truth is that there are not enough private schools to make it a meaningful playoff system.

 

I've said this before, there are two sports that Trinity has never won a state championship in, baseball and basketball. If they ever do win championships in those sports I want them to be against the best competition, public and private.

 

I guess what I wanted to know is, what is the mission statement for both academics and athletics?

From trinityrocks.com

 

Catholic Mission

In addition to intellectual growth, Trinity fosters the spiritual formation of her students. As a pervasive ethos on campus and the center of the Trinity experience, the Catholic culture provides a solid foundation for the development of responsible and benevolent young men with strong moral values. This supports our mission: “To provide students with a superior high school education in a supportive atmosphere based upon Christian values in the Catholic tradition.”

 

Athletics

Pride. Loyalty. Discipline. Achievement. Being a Trinity student-athlete goes far beyond the field of play. It begins and ends with the life lessons learned through the camaraderie, discipline and the excitement of competition. Strong in mind, body and spirit, Trinity student-athletes are pushed to set ambitious goals and have fun while seeking them. Through hard work and tenacity, the Trinity student-athlete is coached to come out on top – regardless of the final score.

I don't the coaches that be ask for T or X to be in there own division. This year, 3 out of 4 regional championships were set up for a Louisville based district to be in the semi's.

Meade County beat Male to keep 3 of 4 Louisville schools (open enrollment) out of the semi's.

Maybe that is a fair alignment, I don't know.

There is no easy fix or it would have been fixed by now. There are so many variables, fix one thing and two more pop up, one reason to change countered by a reason not to. Maybe if it were all about education things would change. Don't have counties with open enrollment in the public schools, have school districts in each county and require children to attend the school their district mandates. If you want your child to attend a private school, you must attend a private school closest to your home, in your district, If there is not a private school in your district or not one that meets your religious oreintation you must attend the closest private school that exists to you home. If the private school that is the closest to your home does not have a class or program that your child wishes to pursue then they must attend the closest private school that does. They must enroll in that class or program and maintain it year in and year with passing grades,and these should be foreign language,advanced classes,AP classes, dual credit classes or Vocational programs not offered by the first designated school or revert back to the closest school to their home. The latter option is not one that children in public schools have, which could be a reason that some parents want their children to attend a private school.

I'll take a stab at this.

 

For our students to continue to be able to participate in a meaningful state playoff system in ALL sports. That can't happen if public and private schools are split because the simple truth is that there are not enough private schools to make it a meaningful playoff system.

 

I've said this before, there are two sports that Trinity has never won a state championship in, baseball and basketball. If they ever do win championships in those sports I want them to be against the best competition, public and private.

 

Sadly, if they do ever win in one of those two sports, they will be called cheaters. :mad:

From saintx.com

 

No athletic mission statement, only one for the school, which includes athletics.

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SAINT XAVIER HIGH SCHOOL

 

MISSION

Saint Xavier, a Catholic secondary school sponsored by the Xaverian Brothers

since 1864, seeks to provide an unparalleled range of academic, spiritual,

athletic, and extracurricular programs in a college preparatory environment.

 

 

VISION

To build the best Catholic High School in America.

 

 

EDUCATIONAL PHILOSOPHY

Saint Xavier High School, in keeping with the teachings of the Roman Catholic

Church and its own traditions, strives for the developmental formation of the

individual, which looks toward a person’s final end and contribution to the

common good of society. Saint Xavier believes that the Gospel ideal of love of

God and love of neighbor is the basis of human society and seeks, therefore, to

provide for each student’s spiritual, moral, intellectual, aesthetic, physical,

emotional and social growth. Saint Xavier provides students the opportunity to

practice a responsible use of freedom, and to embrace and model the values

and attitudes which serve as the foundation of a committed Christian in a

global society.

 

As an educational institution, Saint Xavier is dedicated to providing a strong

liberal arts curriculum which supports the development of the complete

person. Structured as college preparatory, Saint Xavier admits students of

varying abilities who seek the benefits of Catholic education. Saint Xavier’s

program of studies challenges the intellectual ability of its students, provides

for individual learning styles, promotes educational development through the

creative use of one’s talents, enhances critical thinking skills, and encourages

a commitment of service to the interdependent community.

Sadly, if they do ever win in one of those two sports, they will be called cheaters. :mad:

 

You are 100% correct. At this point there will be a large faction of people who will never credit Trinity or X for earning anything.

X and T should embrace playing before the state finals. They already play once in the regular season and split well over $200,000 to be added to their athletic budgets. If they play in the playoffs prior to the state championship game they would split another $200,000. As it is now, the KHSAA gets the $200,000 when they play in the finals. Whether they play the 3rd weekend of the playoffs or the first weekend in December is really not whats important as the winner of the game will be usually be the state champion anyway.

Blockbuster, it's not all about money for the schools, contrary to popular belief. I challenge you to find one person who was at the Trinity/Male playoff game that wasn't bemoaning the fact that the game should have been the championship game. The two teams were clearly evenly matched and it was a war. You are right...the winner of that game did go on to become the eventual champion, but the games were not as competitive. In the spirit of competition, the two eventual teams in the state game should be the best two teams to come on top through the rounds of the playoffs. As much as others will say that Ryle was the number 2 team in the state that year because they lost to Trinity in the State game, it simply wasn't true. And anyone who appreciates a good football game will agree.

Blockbuster, it's not all about money for the schools, contrary to popular belief. I challenge you to find one person who was at the Trinity/Male playoff game that wasn't bemoaning the fact that the game should have been the championship game. The two teams were clearly evenly matched and it was a war. You are right...the winner of that game did go on to become the eventual champion, but the games were not as competitive. In the spirit of competition, the two eventual teams in the state game should be the best two teams to come on top through the rounds of the playoffs. As much as others will say that Ryle was the number 2 team in the state that year because they lost to Trinity in the State game, it simply wasn't true. And anyone who appreciates a good football game will agree.

 

Football playoffs are not seeded, nor should they be. It is based on teams coming out of each area. For years, the best two teams in AAA were Highlands and Cov, who had to face each other year in and year out in their region. They are from the same area, therefore they shouldn't both be going to Louisville for the State Championship. By your argument, on years that Trinity and X are the two best, they should be in opposite brackets. Then other years X and Male should be on opposite brackets. But one thiny you are sure of, every year for another team two win state in AAAAAA they should have two beat at least two if not all three of these teams in the playoffs, who are all from the largest city in our state. You call that being in the spirit of competition? I would call that in the spirit of being advantageous to three schools and the people who support them.

Sadly, if they do ever win in one of those two sports, they will be called cheaters. :mad:

 

My question is to both you and All Tell. Now that you have both shown your school's missions, do the spread of these values go out to special ed students? Do your schools take behavior disorders that have been expelled from other arenas to introduce them to the environment that your schools obviously provide? Really what I am asking, is the goal to try and expose this high educational and religeous environment to everyone, or is it to take the academically and athletically elite in for these services. Once again not to be insulting, but to ask a serious question about the goals of the institutions.

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