February 9, 200818 yr So now McNamee says he injected Clemens' wife with HGH? Awesome. I've always felt that the key to a successful marriage is that you need to have a hobby that the two of you can share. Clemens' lawyer's response: "So did Roger win the Cy Young because his wife took HGH?" I'm not exactly sure that response will help Roger's cause in the court of public opinion. This is bizarre! How would McNamee come up with this one if it isn't true? He has baseball-playing sons, so, if he's going to "make something up" he's going to implicate his WIFE? This almost makes me believe McNamee more but I'm too confused to make up my mind. :creepy:
February 9, 200818 yr Isn't McNamee a former police officer? He would know that evidence is very important and if, like they're saying, he KNEW Roger was a shady guy from the beginning, then he was smart to keep evidence.....(this would be THEIR line of thinking, not necessarily mine). A former police officer illegally administering HGH and a current trainer who is supposed to know what is good and bad for your body. Class act. Can we really say this guy is honest? He's definitely not ethical.
February 9, 200818 yr I guess what just stuns me about this whole sordid affair is that one of these guys is going to swear under oath and the penalty of perjury and criminal prosecution to tell the truth, then sit before Congress and - with the entire country watching - lie their butt off. And at this point, I just don't see why McNamee would take this chance and then compound matters by making up a story about Clemens' wife. Frankly, it'll just be nice when Spring Training rolls around and we can focus on something else baseball-related, but this thing is rather fascinating. Can you imagine if baseball's all-time HR hitter and probably the best pitcher of all time are both "de-famed" in the same year?
February 10, 200818 yr I guess what just stuns me about this whole sordid affair is that one of these guys is going to swear under oath and the penalty of perjury and criminal prosecution to tell the truth, then sit before Congress and - with the entire country watching - lie their butt off. And at this point, I just don't see why McNamee would take this chance and then compound matters by making up a story about Clemens' wife. Frankly, it'll just be nice when Spring Training rolls around and we can focus on something else baseball-related, but this thing is rather fascinating. Can you imagine if baseball's all-time HR hitter and probably the best pitcher of all time are both "de-famed" in the same year?Yes and very plausible. This saga will only continue to escalate with Clemens and others. Spring Training, is nearly ready to start and the focus, will be in hearings. What has MLB evolved into and what steps, are being taken to ensure it doesn't happen again. I want to see some conceding by the Union and Ownership, accepting blame by each and something done, to clean up the game.
February 10, 200818 yr How about Roger "roaming" the halls and meeting with Committee members (and other members of Congress) in their offices? Apparently he sat and talked with them, signed autographs for their staffers, etc. Does this seem unusual to anyone else? It's kind of like OJ having dinner with jury members.
February 10, 200818 yr How about Roger "roaming" the halls and meeting with Committee members (and other members of Congress) in their offices? Apparently he sat and talked with them, signed autographs for their staffers, etc. Does this seem unusual to anyone else? It's kind of like OJ having dinner with jury members. Very odd. In fact, some of the Congressmen have even commented that it was very unusual and didn't know what his purpose was in doing it. I believe one of them even declined to meet with Clemens. Just a guess, but the reason I think Clemens took this approach is because at the end of the day, this will turn out to be a "he said/he said" type of event in which nothing can be definitely proven/disproven. So the ultimate winner, if there is one, will be determined by whom is more likeable/believable and this is Roger's attempt to improve his standing in that area.
February 10, 200818 yr Very odd. In fact, some of the Congressmen have even commented that it was very unusual and didn't know what his purpose was in doing it. I believe one of them even declined to meet with Clemens. Just a guess, but the reason I think Clemens took this approach is because at the end of the day, this will turn out to be a "he said/he said" type of event in which nothing can be definitely proven/disproven. So the ultimate winner, if there is one, will be determined by whom is more likeable/believable and this is Roger's attempt to improve his standing in that area. I agree. And, technically, there's nothing wrong or illegal by it but you'd think that more of the Congressmen/Congresswomen would have declined to meet with him for the obvious reason that it could look like they're playing favorites and that it just kinda looks suspicious.
February 12, 200818 yr Just announced today that ONLY Clemens and McNamee will testify in the hearings scheduled on Wednesday.
February 12, 200818 yr Well now we know what Pettite testified to in his deposition and it corroborated McNamee's side of the story. Pettite supposedly said that Clemens told him to go see McNamee to get HGH like he was taking. There's a surprise. Why or why will some people just not fess up to a simple error of judgement? Clemens himself has turned this into a circus and he alone is responsible for the mess he's gotten himself into, which after Wednesday - if he insists on continuing with his arrogant lie - could become much more serious.
February 12, 200818 yr Well now we know what Pettite testified to in his deposition and it corroborated McNamee's side of the story. Pettite supposedly said that Clemens told him to go see McNamee to get HGH like he was taking. There's a surprise. Why or why will some people just not fess up to a simple error of judgement? Clemens himself has turned this into a circus and he alone is responsible for the mess he's gotten himself into, which after Wednesday - if he insists on continuing with his arrogant lie - could become much more serious. Hasn't he already testified under oath? He knows what he did and his lawyer advised him that they would probably go after him for perjury if he lied. So why would he continue to lie? I'm not taking his side at all. If he did steroids or HGH he's really dumb for not admitting it just like Pettite did.
February 12, 200818 yr Hasn't he already testified under oath? He knows what he did and his lawyer advised him that they would probably go after him for perjury if he lied. So why would he continue to lie? I'm not taking his side at all. If he did steroids or HGH he's really dumb for not admitting it just like Pettite did. I'm coming to the conclusion that Roger is one incredibly arrogant human being. Yes, he was placed under oath during his deposition and therefore subject to penalties of perjury. However, I would be willing to bet that if he would come clean during his Congessional tesimony that his prior "faux pas" would be forgiven.
February 13, 200818 yr McNamee's a clown. He's telling us that he's credible because he was a police officer. Yeah, all credible police officers are up against federal charges. Clemens may very well be guilty but no one is at fault for your actions but you McNamee...CLOWN!
February 13, 200818 yr McNamee's a clown. He's telling us that he's credible because he was a police officer. Yeah, all credible police officers are up against federal charges. Clemens may very well be guilty but no one is at fault for your actions but you McNamee...CLOWN! Yeah I'm not a fan.. If Clemens is lying he's putting on a good show.
February 13, 200818 yr Yeah I'm not a fan.. If Clemens is lying he's putting on a good show. Not really. As this story continues to unfold, I believe more and more people are becoming increasingly skeptical of Clemens and McNamee; which leaves the public to have no faith in whatever these two say to the media these days. If Clemens were to be caught, I honestly dont think anyone will be that surprised.
February 13, 200818 yr Are you saying that you don't remember or that it didn't happen? What's the difference?
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