No. Not necessarily. I THINK (better than assuming, I suppose!) that football numbers would keep us in compliance. I don't think we'd have to add a boy's sport.

 

I could see it either way. Total numbers in a season vs. # of sports being offered or rather sport opportunities being offered in a season.

 

Not sure which way it is looked at but I lean towards the latter. But that is only a slight lean.

Is HS sports supposed to be about putting sports programs on the field that are going to be winners or giving kids an opportunity to participate in a sport and if things go well, win championships?

 

If the kids want to play, what is the problem with giving them the opportunity to play. Again, isn't HS athletics supposed to be about giving these kids opportunities to learn those things that sports teaches?

 

I would assume with title IX issues that works both ways, you add girls' soccer, you are going to add boys' soccer.

When football was added to our school, there was a concern on what would happen with soccer. For a brief time, football got some players. But then the soccer players returned and in reality, soccer has gotten better. Now whether that is long turn or a cycle of good soccer players, has yet to be determined.

 

I believe that the statement in bold above is the reason girls soccer is facing such strong opposition at Beechwood...............and that's a shame and should be an embarrassment to the Beechwood people.

 

If the kids want the opportunity to play soccer(both girls and boys), they should get it. The life lessons that these kids learn from playing on a school team far outweigh any perceived negative on any other sports team at the school.

I talked to a person that has dealt with Title IX since it's inception.

 

The deal is with "opportunities." The boys and girls have to have the same opportunities.

 

They said that when the Title IX people would be looking at this and would see girls soccer and no boys soccer, that would leap off the page that there is not equal opportunities.

 

Beechwood would have to sell that there is the same opportunities with the # in football or wrestling.

 

The opportunities does not have to be in the same season but it is a lot easier sale to the Title IX people if it is.

 

Also, he said the opportunity is to participate as a member of a team. Nothing about PT or the remote chance to win or get on the field. Just to participate as part of a team.

I talked to a person that has dealt with Title IX since it's inception.

 

The deal is with "opportunities." The boys and girls have to have the same opportunities.

 

They said that when the Title IX people would be looking at this and would see girls soccer and no boys soccer, that would leap off the page that there is not equal opportunities.

 

Beechwood would have to sell that there is the same opportunities with the # in football or wrestling.

 

The opportunities does not have to be in the same season but it is a lot easier sale to the Title IX people if it is.

 

Also, he said the opportunity is to participate as a member of a team. Nothing about PT or the remote chance to win or get on the field. Just to participate as part of a team.

 

I have no clue what you are talking about.

 

There are all kinds of NKY schools that have girls soccer without boys soccer.

 

Bellevue

Newport

Dayton

Ludlow (at least at one time they did).

Kudos to John Erardi in this mornings Enquirer . HE Makes Sense!!!

Kudos to John Erardi in this mornings Enquirer . HE Makes Sense!!!

 

:thumb::ylsuper: I agree with you. Very good article.

Kudos to John Erardi in this mornings Enquirer . HE Makes Sense!!!

 

Eradi states in the article that the experience of representing and competing with your school is an experience that can never be duplicated. He is 100% correct. As a parent I have supported, financed, and coached all my kids in the hopes that they will be able to compete on the high school level. At least at the school where my kids will attend they will have that opportunity, I hope the girls at Beechwood will too.

Eradi states in the article that the experience of representing and competing with your school is an experience that can never be duplicated. He is 100% correct. As a parent I have supported, financed, and coached all my kids in the hopes that they will be able to compete on the high school level. At least at the school where my kids will attend they will have that opportunity, I hope the girls at Beechwood will too.

I could not agree with you more. The girls at Beechwood deserve the opportunity to play soccer.

Just because Beechwood adds Girls soccer, it does not mean they will add Boys soccer. There is a Girls track team already without a Boys team. To tell you the truth, the Title IX has me confused as to equal opportunities. I would be upset if I was a male at Beechwood who did not get an opportunity my sister had to run track and play soccer.

This is a huge issue here at Beechwood. Unfortunately, the pro soccer people grossly mis-represented the facts to the media in an attempt to pursuade the school.

 

Those against the addition of any fall sport (not just soccer) have NEVER given football as the reason to turn down soccer. As I am sure you will see, I am one of those opposed.

 

Beechwood is a very small class A school. We have been able to develop an excellent girls sports program. We have a very competetive volleyball and golf team in the fall. In addition, though not a sport, our band is incredibly successful (National Champions last year). Cheerleading is also heavily participated in.

 

The concern is, that if another sport is added, it would dilute the talent pool and the overall effect would be negative on the programs we currently have. This has happened to many class A schools. Bottom line is, we would prefer to be more competetive with what we have instead of hurting what we have.

Quality, not quantity.

 

Dont get me wrong, I have nothing against soccer. All 3 of my children played. If Beechwood had a soccer program and was currently trying to add volleyball, I would be fighting volleyball for the same reason.

 

Believe me, there are not "hundreds" of parents fighting for soccer. Most of the parents are elementary parents who do not have children in high school. There are many parents who feel the same way I do as well. The account in the paper is no where close to a balanced view of the issue.

 

This issue has already been voted down once by a committee of parents and teachers formed to study both sides. Unfortunately, the respose of the pro soccer people has been to hire an attorney and misrepresent the facts to the press. Very sad.

 

 

I was thinking about this again and I started wondering. Maybe Beechwood should get rid of girls basketball. It isn't very competitive and it dilutes the swimming pool (funny pun) where Beechwood is very strong.

I have no clue what you are talking about.

 

There are all kinds of NKY schools that have girls soccer without boys soccer.

 

Bellevue

Newport

Dayton

Ludlow (at least at one time they did).

 

Why is a big question.

 

If those 4 schools have offered it or in the surveys that have been given out in the past for Title IX purposes, not enough girls expressed interest to field a team, that is different than the boys have a team and the girls team does not and it has not been considered.

Why is a big question.

 

If those 4 schools have offered it or in the surveys that have been given out in the past for Title IX purposes, not enough girls expressed interest to field a team, that is different than the boys have a team and the girls team does not and it has not been considered.

 

Again you have got me. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Take NO for an answer! Quit crying to the news and the newapaper.

Take NO for an answer! Quit crying to the news and the newapaper.

 

So your daughter wants to play high school soccer and there's enough interest to get a team started but a volleyball parent says it will hurt that program so we cannot have it and you tell your daughter "take no for an answer????"

 

Based on the mentality of some of those quoted, the girls b-ball program had better ship up or they will be shut down.

 

I will disagree wholeheartedly with my friend Beechwoodfan and say that BW is completely wrong on this issue. If it hurts volleyball then volleyball wasn't as strong as some think.

Amazing how everyone NOT involved w/Beechwood knows everything about Beechwood. IMO, what the pro soccer fans did by calling the news/newspaper was tacky and a big stab in the back to the Beechwood Administration and entire staff. Beechwood has always been about pride, family and community. They have always taken care of their own. Now you have a bunch of rich elementary parents who don't know what to do w/all their money, hire an attorney because they were told NO!

 

By getting soccer will not hurt the football team, so those using this as a crutch, please stop. Nothing will hurt the football program. Parents will continue to move to Ft Mitchell or pay tuition for their sons to play football no matter what.

 

I could go on and on but one last thing, the parents say it's not about "quality but quantitiy." Show me one parent who could care less if their little Johnny or Susie doesn't win and I will call them a liar.

 

I would like to know where this team will practice/play? They talk about not playing by KHSAA standards for a few yrs, well it will take longer than a few yrs because elementary and Jr High students can not participate in JV/V soccer, state rules. Again, it's a numbers game and I don't believe they are there at the H.S. level.