I thought it was called the Trinity Invitational....:sssh:

Maybe GURU would let them call it "The Bluegrass Preps Bowl"

Maybe GURU would let them call it "The Bluegrass Preps Bowl"

He doesn't have enough jack for that, no matter how exorbitant the subsciption fees are ... :lol:

He doesn't have enough jack for that, no matter how exorbitant the subsciption fees are ... :lol:

 

 

Let's hope they don't get any higher;)

As I understand it, the KHSAA is a separate, non-profit corporation that on an annual basis is appointed by the State Board of Education as its agent to run high school athletics. Any year, the State Board of Education can elect not to renew its agency relationship with the KHSAA (although they'd have to do it themselves or find some other agent to do it. Rather than those options, the State Board currently is exerting more oversight over things going on at the KHSAA to change it the way they want it to be).

 

I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm told a large percentage of the dues paid by member schools is used by the KHSAA to purchase catastrophic insurance for the schools' (not the KHSAA's) student athletes. To the extent the dues are generated from local taxes and it became an issue, I guess the KHSAA could tell the schools to keep their dues and have the schools purchase the catastrophic insurance themselves. I'm sure it would be much more expensive that way however. Thus the current method makes the most sense.

 

Most of the KHSAA revenues come from the championship events. If we want to have increased enforcement and compliance of the rules (as most folks have been clamoring for) that takes more revenues to pay for the increased legal, investigative and administrative costs. If it takes naming the championship events after corporate sponsors to make that happen, I'm all for it. As Sweep pointed out, the kids playing in the championship events couldn't give hoot a in Hades what the events are called, so why should the adults get worked up over it? (I know the answer to that and its not complimentary).

 

It is, indeed, refreshing, leatherneck, to think that the KBE may be getting more involved with athletics. After all, we know a significant percentage of the student population in our high schools have no desire to pursue any further education, while other students are preparing for the next level in their education. So, whatever route these kids choose to pursue once their high school days are behind them, the KBE should ensure that they do as much as they can to assist these students in understanding that their choices will determine what is expected of them once they complete that last step in their primary education. It's easy for some to forget that the kids are most important, and some would be looking for work if they aren't afforded the opportunity to make sure they remain most important! And while athletics, in no small degree, contribute to that group of student's work ethics due to their protracted time spent in addition to their educational responsibilities(while many other students enjoy early evenings, days/weeks off normally on the school calenders, as well as those, oft-times hot, summer days in between years), you would think the student/athlete would have an obvious advantage over the non-student/athletes in self descipline acquired and essential for success whether pursuing a college education or deciding instead to join the work force. However, a number of these student-athletes leave high school with deficient self-esteems due, in large part, to the KHSAA's perceived practice, whether justified or not, of selective enforcement of their rules pertaining to one, or more, of their school's sports programs, aware of other schools being seemingly immune from the KHSAA's intervention even though they see either no apparent difference in other schools methods or, worse, when they say they know of other schools that have broken the rules. So, hopefully, we'll see our kids benefit from an improved even-handed image of the KHSAA after the KBE gets more involved and maybe a way to make sure that whoever it is the KBE chooses, they'll have sufficient resources to avoid any appearance of impropriety.

 

And I agree with you and Sweep about the championship weekend!

 

 

 

Thanks for clearing things up westsider! I did however see that you failed to comment on the trophy issue. I am not at all jealous of this, I just think that all sports should get the monster trophy. I have been around to see many state trophies past out, and only 1, basketball, is that nice. I just think it is a crime to award one beauty of a trophy in one sport and then award a larger version of the district trophy in ALL of the other sports. Get a starving artist somewhere and have them design a gem of a trophy for all sports and then the KHSAA can truly say that they are in it for "ALL KIDS"!!!!

 

 

A good post, Family 4 Ever, although you must remember there have been 4 championship trophies for football in the past since there were 4 classes. And those trophies may get even smaller this year since we'll have 6 classes of high school football champions this year! :eek: And there's still only one state champion for basketball. :thumb:

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What do you think?

 

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At least they spelled everything correctly...

It is, indeed, refreshing, leatherneck, to think that the KBE may be getting more involved with athletics. After all, we know a significant percentage of the student population in our high schools have no desire to pursue any further education, while other students are preparing for the next level in their education. So, whatever route these kids choose to pursue once their high school days are behind them, the KBE should ensure that they do as much as they can to assist these students in understanding that their choices will determine what is expected of them once they complete that last step in their primary education. It's easy for some to forget that the kids are most important, and some would be looking for work if they aren't afforded the opportunity to make sure they remain most important! And while athletics, in no small degree, contribute to that group of student's work ethics due to their protracted time spent in addition to their educational responsibilities(while many other students enjoy early evenings, days/weeks off normally on the school calenders, as well as those, oft-times hot, summer days in between years), you would think the student/athlete would have an obvious advantage over the non-student/athletes in self descipline acquired and essential for success whether pursuing a college education or deciding instead to join the work force. However, a number of these student-athletes leave high school with deficient self-esteems due, in large part, to the KHSAA's perceived practice, whether justified or not, of selective enforcement of their rules pertaining to one, or more, of their school's sports programs, aware of other schools being seemingly immune from the KHSAA's intervention even though they see either no apparent difference in other schools methods or, worse, when they say they know of other schools that have broken the rules. So, hopefully, we'll see our kids benefit from an improved even-handed image of the KHSAA after the KBE gets more involved and maybe a way to make sure that whoever it is the KBE chooses, they'll have sufficient resources to avoid any appearance of impropriety.

 

And I agree with you and Sweep about the championship weekend!

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good post, Family 4 Ever, although you must remember there have been 4 championship trophies for football in the past since there were 4 classes. And those trophies may get even smaller this year since we'll have 6 classes of high school football champions this year! :eek: And there's still only one state champion for basketball. :thumb:

 

Okay, I agree with a lot of your post except for the bolded part if I understand the point you are trying to make. Frankly if a kid at any school has deficient self worth because they lost an athletic event, any athletic event, after giving it his/her all (and I'm not just talking in the game), then the kid, the kid's parents and the kid's coaches shoulder that blame, not the KHSAA "perceived practice" (your allegation, not mine) of selective enforcement. Heck, if nothing else the perception that the KHSAA's selective enforcement of the rules was the cause of the loss would enable the kids on the defeated team to hold their head even higher after the loss using the rationalization that they only lost because of the KHSAA, would it not? (I really would like your answer to that question.)

 

I sincerely doubt the kids on the Letcher County team felt that they got beat by Highlands as a result of the KHSAA's failure to enforce the rules uniformily. I think they went back to Whitesburg and felt that they just got beat by a better team, nothing more and nothing less. I sincerely doubt the loss affected the Letcher County players self esteem. And if my read of Hilliard Howard and his coaching staff is anywhere close to being correct, they have already met with their returning players and started telling them what they need to do to get up to Highlands level of play. My guess is that they didn't go home and say you got beat by one of those N. Ky independent district schools that the KHSAA lets get away with murder. My guess is that they told them not to wallow in self pity; rather get in the weight room now to get stronger; don't eat foods that put useless fat on you and make you slower; get out on the track now to get faster and improve your endurance. That's the message I'm betting the Letcher County coaches are telling their kids.

Okay, I agree with a lot of your post except for the bolded part if I understand the point you are trying to make. Frankly if a kid at any school has deficient self worth because they lost an athletic event, any athletic event, after giving it his/her all (and I'm not just talking in the game), then the kid, the kid's parents and the kid's coaches shoulder that blame, not the KHSAA "perceived practice" (your allegation, not mine) of selective enforcement. Heck, if nothing else the perception that the KHSAA's selective enforcement of the rules was the cause of the loss would enable the kids on the defeated team to hold their head even higher after the loss using the rationalization that they only lost because of the KHSAA, would it not? (I really would like your answer to that question.)

 

I sincerely doubt the kids on the Letcher County team felt that they got beat by Highlands as a result of the KHSAA's failure to enforce the rules uniformily. I think they went back to Whitesburg and felt that they just got beat by a better team, nothing more and nothing less. I sincerely doubt the loss affected the Letcher County players self esteem. And if my read of Hilliard Howard and his coaching staff is anywhere close to being correct, they have already met with their returning players and started telling them what they need to do to get up to Highlands level of play. My guess is that they didn't go home and say you got beat by one of those N. Ky independent district schools that the KHSAA lets get away with murder. My guess is that they told them not to wallow in self pity; rather get in the weight room now to get stronger; don't eat foods that put useless fat on you and make you slower; get out on the track now to get faster and improve your endurance. That's the message I'm betting the Letcher County coaches are telling their kids.

 

 

Not at all, leatherneck, as they enjoyed successful seasons here, just as my youngest(his last season, and if I happen to hear any such comment from him, or any teammates sometime in the future, it WILL be hard to avoid drawing such conclusions) has this year(although the loss of our QB late in the season may have contributed to our 3rd round loss at DeSales(@ Manual). Coach Derossett has always been positive in his approach, equally to wins and losses, and has always kept his players working hard both during the season and the off-season, especially since we rarely enjoy sufficient numbers to enable players to only play on one side of the ball, so they have to be in good shape!(And this is as close as I can get to answering your question, as well as your comments regarding conditioning) These were comments that were post-playing and after graduation, and I didn't realize there were any issues at the time, and friendships still exist with players from teams we came out on top with, as well as players on teams we lost to. So it's entirely possible that I've taken these comments totally out of context, and just not understood(football players are a closed-mouth bunch, for the most part!). But I just happened to pick up on the posting regarding the player for Danville who lived in, and whose father still works in Lincoln Co., and thought maybe there is something to it. And if they are short-handed and more involvement from the KBE may remedy that, if that's the determination, I would hope that everyone wants what's best for our kids, even if those with the KHSAA or the KBE don't have any that are, or have been, involved in any of the high school sports programs.

A good post, Family 4 Ever, although you must remember there have been 4 championship trophies for football in the past since there were 4 classes. And those trophies may get even smaller this year since we'll have 6 classes of high school football champions this year! :eek: And there's still only one state champion for basketball. :thumb:

 

So what you're saying is "Size Matters?" Trophy awards are nice...at the time they're given out. After that they're just dust collectors. The memory of what was accomplished and with whom you accomplished it is really all that matters. Our letter jackets were a joke, the trophy looked like every other trophy, we got a little bitty trinket football from the KHSAA, press clippings yellow and decay. But the MEMORIES of the event are PRICELESS!!

Trust me, I would trade the memories, relationships, and all of the experiences for nothing!! My point was simply that the KHSAA seems to put a lot more into the sweet 16 then they do the Gridiron, Prep, 6 headed dragon football championships. I remember being swept off of the field after winning so the "next" game could get on, as opposed to the confeti and the hoopla that comes with the sweet 16. I just feel that the KHSAA could do more in terms of equality. I am all about the journey and memories and not about the trophy. Just used the those things as evidence to what my opinion on the issue is.

A good post, Family 4 Ever, although you must remember there have been 4 championship trophies for football in the past since there were 4 classes. And those trophies may get even smaller this year since we'll have 6 classes of high school football champions this year! :eek: And there's still only one state champion for basketball. :thumb:

 

So what you're saying is "Size Matters?" Trophy awards are nice...at the time they're given out. After that they're just dust collectors. The memory of what was accomplished and with whom you accomplished it is really all that matters. Our letter jackets were a joke, the trophy looked like every other trophy, we got a little bitty trinket football from the KHSAA, press clippings yellow and decay. But the MEMORIES of the event are PRICELESS!!

 

 

Sure, who wouldn't want the biggest trophy behind the glass case?! But, like you say, they only collect dust, and the memories of accomplishment are not soon forgotten. We(along with the booster's club) have to get our own letter jackets, so are you saying that your letter jackets were a gift? And I haven't been around in a while, so I don't know what the KHSAA sends and/or hands out, although our state runnerup trophy in '01 was a very nice one. And if our kids got some of those footballs, they probably won't get them until the football banquet. And if you'll have those press clippings laminated, they'll survive much better than those that just lay around.

And if our kids got some of those footballs, they probably won't get them until the football banquet. And if you'll have those press clippings laminated, they'll survive much better than those that just lay around.

 

His press clippings were craved on a stone tablet...Paper for printing and plastic for laminating had not yet been invented.

His press clippings were craved on a stone tablet...Paper for printing and plastic for laminating had not yet been invented.

 

 

 

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Back in the "stone tablet" days...Our letter jackets were awarded to us through the boosters. The year I lettered, they just happened to decide to change the "style" from the traditional leather sleeved jacket to the all cloth waist coat. They went over like the proverbial "lead balloon" and were changed back to the traditional the following year. I wish I would have kept mine...collectors item! (lol). Now, costs being what they are, I believe the boosters give $$ toward the jacket but don't foot the entire bill. They do more than enough for the program @ HHS. And there are no press clippings. The town crier came out and shouted the results (LOL)!

His press clippings were carved on a stone tablet...Paper for printing and plastic for laminating had not yet been invented.

 

...are you saying I'm "chiseled" ????:jump: