It is not going to change, period. IMO: People from small schools always start talking about classification at this time of year. The state tournament is/was not designed to please everybody, nor should it. What makes it great is that everyone is trying to win ONE state championship trophy. Not everything in life is fair just because we want it to be and we shouldn't change the rules because we feel every kid should get a chance at the state championship.

As in softball, as in the private/public issue, it will change once someone gets the legislature involved and they mandate it.

If Kentucky's current system is so great, then why is South Dakota the only state(with the exception of Kentucky) that does not class basketball. I would bet the people in Indiana that say their high school basketball has been ruined are not from the smaller school districts. KHSAA(a rogue organization, to say the least) will not consider a change unless they see some dollar signs. When KHSAA starts considering something other than money and their expense accounts, free tickets, etc. there could be a change. That would mean an overhaul of the current board and administration. This is similar to the absolute refusal of college football going to a playoff system. There is no inexplicable reasons other than self-interest and $$$$$.

As in softball, as in the private/public issue, it will change once someone gets the legislature involved and they mandate it.

 

 

People have tried for over 20 years to get it changed and it hasn't worked. There is a lot of people in high places who want it to stay the way it is now and will do anything to keep it this way.You can keep dreaming that it will change, but it isn't going to and people will/should just move on.

 

As far as stating that people will get the legislature involved, the politicians of this state should/do have more important things to worry about than making changes to the basketball format because small schools think it is unfair.

I ahve to disagree with you. If it ain't broke ... don't fix it. I don't think it's broke. The A schools have their OWN state tourney, so no reason to complain.

But that's just me.

I agree...no reason to change things at all!:thumb:

If Kentucky's current system is so great, then why is South Dakota the only state(with the exception of Kentucky) that does not class basketball. I would bet the people in Indiana that say their high school basketball has been ruined are not from the smaller school districts. KHSAA(a rogue organization, to say the least) will not consider a change unless they see some dollar signs. When KHSAA starts considering something other than money and their expense accounts, free tickets, etc. there could be a change. That would mean an overhaul of the current board and administration. This is similar to the absolute refusal of college football going to a playoff system. There is no inexplicable reasons other than self-interest and $$$$$.

 

Welcome to the site, rook, but you might want to fact-check. Besides Kentucky, only Delaware doesn't classify in basketball. Delaware has around 70 high schools in the entire state.

 

South Dakota is broken into three classes: AA for big schools; A for smaller schools; B for schools that combine boys and girls on one team.

June Buchanan did alright with only 80 students total.

Has anyone ever told that you are "special"? As I understand it the term "special" can carry multiple meanings and it is usually a subjective thing not needing to be supported nor debated. I hope all your days are "special" days.

 

I can agree to disagree with you on this one. I really don't know why it seems to be such a strong point for you to make about a team that did something good for their small school system.:confused:

The original post compared Dawson Springs to this year's Caldwell County team ... there is no comparison.

 

It's nice that Dawson Springs made it to the regional tournament, but let's not get carried away in our description of the situation.

If we ever have KHSAA-sanctioned class basketball, two classes is all we need.

 

And since we already have the All A Classic in place, I see no need to make a change. My only wish is that the All A Classic would up its enrollment limit just a bit to include the Caldwell Countys, Corbins and Shelby Valleys of the state.

 

 

 

"Up" the enrollment a bit?

We need to "down" the enrollment a bit.

 

Any idea what the current percentage of schools already qualifying for the All "A" Classic is?

June Buchanan did alright with only 80 students total.

How many 4A schools are in their region?

"Up" the enrollment a bit?

We need to "down" the enrollment a bit.

I know ... you and I have this debate every year.

People have tried for over 20 years to get it changed and it hasn't worked. There is a lot of people in high places who want it to stay the way it is now and will do anything to keep it this way.You can keep dreaming that it will change, but it isn't going to and people will/should just move on.

 

As far as stating that people will get the legislature involved, the politicians of this state should/do have more important things to worry about than making changes to the basketball format because small schools think it is unfair.

As they should have in whether schools were offering fast pitch or slow pitch. And yet they did.

 

The legislature puts their noise in anytime they think they can wrangle some votes out of it.

If Kentucky's current system is so great, then why is South Dakota the only state(with the exception of Kentucky) that does not class basketball. I would bet the people in Indiana that say their high school basketball has been ruined are not from the smaller school districts. KHSAA(a rogue organization, to say the least) will not consider a change unless they see some dollar signs. When KHSAA starts considering something other than money and their expense accounts, free tickets, etc. there could be a change. That would mean an overhaul of the current board and administration. This is similar to the absolute refusal of college football going to a playoff system. There is no inexplicable reasons other than self-interest and $$$$$.

You see that public high school in your community? THAT is the KHSAA. The private schools in the state. THAT is the KHSAA. Do you consider the HS you graduated from or are attending a rogue organization? Because it makes up the KHSAA.

 

ANY HIGH SCHOOL IN THE STATE could make a proposal to change the basketball system in this state. I have not heard of that proposal being made.

 

And for the record, the collegiate football championship does a better job finding the TRUE best team of the SEASON than March Madness does. UNLESS you feel George Mason was one of the 4 best teams last collegiate basketball season.

In a related note, Rose Hill is the only girls team in the Sweet 16 with an enrollement of less than 650. 650 is the halfway point for 2A in football.

And for the record, the collegiate football championship does a better job finding the TRUE best team of the SEASON than March Madness does. UNLESS you feel George Mason was one of the 4 best teams last collegiate basketball season.

Very debatable.

 

LSU could have made a case for being the best football team at the end of the season ... a tournament would have given them a chance to show it.

 

George Mason earned their way to the final four by beating four good teams in a tournament.

You make a great arguement for the private small A schools, but as far as the public schools, we struggle to play with the elite of the elite. Is it fair, no, but neither is life.

 

One of the team's that I pull for is Williamsburg and they play in a district where they compete against 2 4A schools and a 2A school, realistically what chances do they have to win the district or even a chance to get to the region.

 

Another team the I pull for is Cumberland where I teach, we took South Laural to the final 30 seconds in the region semi's, still a single a school playing against a much bigger school, again is that fair, maybe if I could bring in kids from all over the county and recruit but I can not, so the answer is still the same it is not fair, the entire system needs to be overhauled. Why is it that 48 other states have done the exact same thing.

Cumberland is a good example of why we should not go to a classed state tournament. Cumberland(1A) almost beat South Laurel(4A) in the Region and could very well have won the region this year. Cumberland(1A) must be considered a favorite and may very well win the 13th region next year. There are other small schools like Cumberland who somehow manage to have very good teams even though they have a small enrollment. All it takes is a good basketball program and good coaching. If the best talent always won we wouldn't have any reason to play the state tournament.In the 2003 region 13 tournament Cumberland won it all and beat 4A Bell County along the way.