But the AA schools can't compete in the All-A. Caldwell County is the shining example. Possibly a 2A state contender but lost to 4A Henderson County in the region semifinals. Ended their year at 24-4. If they had beaten Henderson County, they would have to beat 4A Christian County to advance to Rupp.

Corbin(2a) gave South Laurel(4a) all they wanted tonight in the 13th region final and lost 66-64. I for one can't wait to meet South Laurel(4a) in the 13th region final next year and watch Corbin(2A) walk away with the Regional title! So my vote is keep it like it is!!

Without the class A, then some of these kids that play in it never get to know what a great thing a big tournament is. Most of the small schools never make it to the region tournament and have little hope of ever playing in Rupp. Just wondering how you would fix this problem for a small school view point if not something like the Class A tourney? :confused:

Elliott County class A played in the all A Classic at Richmond(and also for the last 3 or 4 years) and are going to Rupp and representing the 16th region in the State Tournament . I'll bet if you asked every single player on the Elliott County team which state tournament they would rather play in that to a man the answer would be "We want Rupp"!

Elliott County class A played in the all A Classic at Richmond(and also for the last 3 or 4 years) and are going to Rupp and representing the 16th region in the State Tournament . I'll bet if you asked every single player on the Elliott County team which state tournament they would rather play in that to a man the answer would be "We want Rupp"!

Maybe. But ask Corbin if they had rather be playing in the Class 2A State Tournament or watching South Laurel play at Rupp.

Here's another story about how attendance numbers, which were dropping before class basketball in Indiana, are recovering nicely.

 

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You can make stats say about anything you want. How about this one. 41000 at the Indiana one class system finals one year, less than five years later, 15,000. But keep in mind, Indiana could risk change. The IHSAA gets money from all rounds of play (similar to our district and region), while here in Kentucky, the KHSAA only gets the finals. Pretty easy to see why many want to protect the KHSAA from the class interests. It would be financially devastating to all schools I feel, as 1) the KHSAA would lose money on the state compared to now and 2) they would then necessarily raid the district and region money in a means of keeping the funding strong for such programs as tennis, golf, cross country and track, which lose large sums.

Do it and watch basketball die in this state...

 

Why would it die?

 

I think 2 seperate classes would be great.

 

Sceario 1: 2 Sweet Sixteens on back to back weekends.

 

Scenario 2 (my favorite):

Only 8 teams from each class make it to the Sweet Sixteen.

You get down to 8 by having "sub state" games, where 2 regional champs play each other. The same 2 regions match up year after year alternating the site of the game between the 2 regions.

Example region 9 vs region 10 every year

Region 9 would host the 2A game this year while region 10 hosts the 1A game. Alternating yearly.

 

Friday Nights game:Holmes vs. Clark County

I think the game this year for example Holmes vs. Clark County would sell out quickly for $10 a ticket easy, maybe more. And let that money still go to the KHSAA because we all know what a cash cow boys basketball is.

 

Saturday nights game: NCC vs Bishop Brossart

The other match Newport Central Catholic vs. Bishop Brossart, that would also IMO sell out quickly.

These "sub state" games would be huge with rivalries building between regions. Fans getting to see great high school basketball with out having to travel to Lexington every year.

Maybe. But ask Corbin if they had rather be playing in the Class 2A State Tournament or watching South Laurel play at Rupp.

 

This is ridiculous. Corbin was last at the Sweet Sixteen as recently as 2005, has made trip upon trip over the years, and came within a bucket of going this year.

 

It's not some impossible dream. Going into next year, it's quite probable that South will be watching the Hounds instead.

 

People like you want to bust the trophies up into a million pieces and expect the "champions" to feel special. Folks in places like Corbin would be insulted at the prospect.

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You can make stats say about anything you want. How about this one. 41000 at the Indiana one class system finals one year, less than five years later, 15,000. But keep in mind, Indiana could risk change. The IHSAA gets money from all rounds of play (similar to our district and region), while here in Kentucky, the KHSAA only gets the finals. Pretty easy to see why many want to protect the KHSAA from the class interests. It would be financially devastating to all schools I feel, as 1) the KHSAA would lose money on the state compared to now and 2) they would then necessarily raid the district and region money in a means of keeping the funding strong for such programs as tennis, golf, cross country and track, which lose large sums.

 

If I remember correctly that game was Damon Baileys, Indiana high school legends senior year.

The small schools have their own state tournament in the All A Classic. So, there is no reason to tear apart the Sweet Sixteen tournament that we have now.

Everyone ask yourself this. Would you rather be a big fish in a small pond or a small fish with a chance to eat the big fish in a big pond?:scared:

Quite a few people already believe Kentucky basketball is a "class system."

Having been in both situations - winning the 10th Region and playing (and winning in Rupp) and winning the "A" State this year, we (Brossart) are obviously in an ideal situation.

 

I wouldn't trade my Rupp/10th Champs experience for anything nor would I trade my "A" State Champs experience for anything. They were both awesome experiences that I will cherish forever.

 

Classifying basketball in Kentucky will still bring no salvation to the smaller "A" schools. Augusta, Deming, St. Pats, Bellevue, Dayton, Ludlow, Silver Grove and etc still will have no chance, because of the wide division of parity even among the "A"s.

 

St. Henry, NCC, Brossart, Holy Cross who occasionally have chances to go win a region and go to Rupp will be the teams winning the local "A" divisions. So what do we accomplish there???

 

Until somehow a true "Division III" tournament is devised or until the aforementioned smaller "A" schools develop programs to become competitive with the more accomplished "A" schools, nothing much is going to change. I'm sure that this scenerio is repeated over and over again throughout the state.

What about the "tweeners" such as Caldwell County, Fort Campbell (who plays in a district with Hopkinsville, Christian County and University Heights), DeSales, Elizabethtown (eliminated by a 4A school), or Breathitt County. These are small-type schools too big for the All-A.

E-Town has done pretty well and Breathitt is more than big enough to compete in the 14th Region. The girls won this year.

This is ridiculous. Corbin was last at the Sweet Sixteen as recently as 2005, has made trip upon trip over the years, and came within a bucket of going this year.

 

It's not some impossible dream. Going into next year, it's quite probable that South will be watching the Hounds instead.

 

People like you want to bust the trophies up into a million pieces and expect the "champions" to feel special. Folks in places like Corbin would be insulted at the prospect.

 

I totally agree with you here. It is almost like people say it is too hard to get to the Sweet Sixteen so the KHSAA should make it easier for us. This takes every thing that is special about Kentucky Basketball and shatters it. I have been at schools that have had teams make runs to the All "A" finals and to the Sweet Sixteen. There were more people in Rupp to watch these boys play in the 1st round of the Sweet Sixteen than their were at the All "A" State Championship. This shows the level of importance people in Kentucky place on the Sweet Sixteen!!!

A class system for basketball is the only fair thing to do.

 

I hate to single out certain teams, but since Scribe already mentioned Caldwell and Henderson, I'm going to use those two teams as an example.

 

Henderson has over 2,000 students. Caldwell has less than 700. Exactly how, in any way, shape or form, is Caldwell supposed to compete with Henderson on a level playing field (which is what the KHSAA should be endorsing).

 

In other words, if you were Caldwell and I was Henderson and we were picking teams on the playground, I would get three picks for every one you got. Gee, which one of us is going to have the loaded team?

 

However, by having just one class, the KHSAA is endorsing an incredibly uneven playing field. I can't believe there's not more outrage.

 

There is a reason 48 states have different classes for basketball. Because it's the only fair thing to do.

 

Perhaps, if a few more schools actually went into the season with something more than a snowball's chance of competing for a regional or state championship, the amount of interest in Kentucky high school hoops might just increase, not decrease.

 

As it stands now, you can pick out the 3-4 larger schools in most regions and they will be the ones competing for championships.