I agree with URIT and LBBC.

 

Also coaches are like teachers, they do it for the love of what they do.

As a parent of a child here in the 10th region. I dont recall any Basketball coach having a gun to there head and making them coach, I have seen well over 1500 ball games in my lifetime. I see coaches wearing FREE shoes. I see coaches wearing FREE shirts. I see coaches wearing prob alot more free stuff we dont know about. I dont ever see a coach PAY to get in a game. I see coaches think that they are ON TOP of the world and they are better then alot of people, Go back to the old days when Coach Leon Willett and Hutch coached. Now those were the days. I dont recall all those fancy clothes and shoes.. As far as the KIDS, There is only one team in the 10th region that will prevail and that is MASON COUNTY. So some of you coaches do need to remember, These kids all are human and there are alot worse things in the world then taking a little heat from a parent. YES I have coached, before you get to tore up. Its as simple as this If you cant take the heat. get out of the kitchen. You can shake a tree anywhere in the 10th region and 20 coaches will fall out.. Just may all not be SUPER COACHES

 

The flip side of this post is that no one is holding a gun to the kid's head making him/her play. If the kid can't handle being coached then do something else. Lord knows there are enough other organized things to get into these days.

If you can't hang with the big dogs stay on the porch.

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The flip side of this post is that no one is holding a gun to the kid's head making him/her play. If the kid can't handle being coached then do something else. Lord knows there are enough other organized things to get into these days.

Thats what I like about this world. Free Speech and 'TO EACH THERE OWN"

You are 100% correct LBM, as parents we do want what's best for our children, especially if we feel like they are deserving but on the same note being a parent sometimes clouds our judgements. I agree with Yoda's earlier post. When things do not go as we or our children think that they should, it can be a learning experience for the child. If they want a starting position or happen to lose a starting position then instead of blaming the coach and portraying the child as a victim encourage the child to work harder and earn that starting position. In my experience, coaches want to win and it would be very obvious, not to mention stupid, not to play a child that contributed greatly to the team regardless of feelings toward the parents. Its also been my experience that when you have difficult parents that you usually have a difficult child to deal with also. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree and sometimes parents can blow their kids abilities so far out of reality that they actually do them an injustice. Just because we think that our children are great doesn't mean that they actually are. Coach see things more clearly than we do at times. They are there at practices and they consider the childs attitude. Some kids are convinced that they are so good that they are beyond listening to their coach. These children may be great ball players but they are not coachable. Playing sports can be an opportunity to teach our children some life lessons before we actually have to put them into the real world. You can't just quit a job, throw a fit, or have Mommy & Daddy talk to your boss if things aren't going your way. Figure out how to make things better.

 

 

Alot of good points have been made on this thread. As a former player, with parents (that I dearly love) but knew nothing about basketball and always thought the coach was picking on me, I understand how parents can be. As a former Jr. High and Varsity Coach, you are expected to "win" so that is what you look to do. I understand how hard it is to have seniors on the bench, but if they throw the ball away or cannot play defense and hurt your team, you will leave them, for the most part, on the bench. From a small district, where I have lived all my life, I understand how hard that is, when the parents are your friends. From being a parent and having a player, I understand what you are saying about wanting your child to play. Parents do tend to have "blinders on" with their children and I understand how easy that is, from experience. But as stated in the original thread, the coaches are paid to do a job, and the parents and fans have to leave it in their hands to be the judge of who plays and who doesn't. Coaches are human and make mistakes, I know I made many. This is a hard job, like teaching, a decision you make could change the childs entire future. So when you have a person that dedicates their time to coaching, which is extremely underpaid, but most coaches don't do it for the money, pat them on the back and thank them.

 

Thank you Coaches for dedicating your time to work with our youth.

 

 

So Coaches are always right, and never make mistakes. I do believe one of the if not the best player who ever played the game had a High School Coach in Wilmington NC who said he could not play either. Boy was he right.

 

 

 

I assume you are talking about Michael Jordan. Who's to say that if that coach hadn't cut him his freshman year, he would have put in the hours he did to improve and prove his coach wrong. He might not have turned out the player he is/was, if it wasn't for that coach.

I started coaching in 63-64 and my salary was 4750 dollars and I coached 7-8 th grade, frosh, JV and varsity basketball and high school baseball and only had 27 dollars in the athletic fund. Just before the first varsity game I bought a new Rawlings RSS bassketball to use as a game ball. I coached for 21 years and after the 6th year I was given a grade school coach and had an assistant the last 3 years . I never got any free clothing , shoes or anything. I was fortunate in having a lot of good ball teams from good old farm and small town boys. I had very few problems with boys or parents. Good common sense prevents a lot of problems. Most problems are caused by thoughtless acts. I see less and less fundamental coaches out there and kids just don't know how to play and that 3 point line hasn't helped a lot either. Because of all the problems created by parents ,good coaches are leaving all that hassle and the administration will let just about anyone coach these young kids and a lot of them don't know diddley-squat. I see it as a down right shame, but what does one do. I had 2 excellent fundamental coaches in high school and one in grade school and I consider myself lucky.

The flip side of this post is that no one is holding a gun to the kid's head making him/her play. If the kid can't handle being coached then do something else. Lord knows there are enough other organized things to get into these days.

 

Another post that hits the nail right on the head, Yoda! :thumb:

Another post that hits the nail right on the head, Yoda! :thumb:

 

True blue - I'm starting the YODA fan club and I think that with 2 compliments in the same thread you're looking good for president.

 

One back at 'cha - great avator! Nothing hits the spot like a Shasta with a fried balogna sandwich.

I am ready to take the oath. All hail Yoda...

 

Speaking of fan clubs, we sort of have one going - see Buttels or Lunatic1 for a membership application! :thumb:

LuVbasketball you are the type that can coach their own child. I do not understand people who have the desire to coach their child in every sport they play, because I had to do it at the MS level and found it difficult and exhausting.

 

This is a problem!, it is a problem in that most of the times the kid does get special treatment and the other parents do have problems with this. I also feel for the child too, because no matter what his skill level, others think he is getting to play because of his Parent.

 

I know this does not hold true for all situations but I can speak for my father that coached two of my siblings. He was more critical of both of them on the court. He expected the most out of them and he knew because they were his kids when he wasn't getting it and they paid for it. I commend him for the way he handled a tough situation by not playing favorites and not ever bringing the game home. Coaching your kids is a danged (not sure what words can't be used on here) if you do, danged if you don't.

I once knew a coach that used perhaps too much caution with his own daughter. As a sophomore, she was very, very good. However, there was a bunch of seniors, most of whom were could play. One that was not as good was the Asst. Superintendent's daughter. He played her over his own kid who was much, much better. This was kind of a reverse effect, where what was best for the team really should have meant playing his own daughter.

I once knew a coach that used perhaps too much caution with his own daughter. As a sophomore, she was very, very good. However, there was a bunch of seniors, most of whom were could play. One that was not as good was the Asst. Superintendent's daughter. He played her over his own kid who was much, much better. This was kind of a reverse effect, where what was best for the team really should have meant playing his own daughter.

 

Very good example...danged if you do, danged if you don't!!!:thumb:

It's all about approach and damage. Being a fan and second guessing are things every armchair quaterback does. Most "fans" love to kibbitz about how a game went. The damage comes in when a fan, a parent or an AAU coach or anybody else clearly degrades a coach, a team or a program merely because they are dissatisfied for personal reasons. Trashing a coach in front of other parents and especially in front of the players (their own son included) shows nothing but disrespect. Disrespect for the position itself if not for the person in the position. This is counterproductive and leads to all kinds of issues with a team and its players. No, a democracy it will never be and should never be.

 

And lastly, you try taking some of the criticisms leveled at some coaches (personal attacks, villification, rumor mongoring) and see if you wouldn't take some of it personally. Despite what you might believe, coaches are human and humans have emotions and feelings.

 

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Outstanding post.

It's all about approach and damage. Being a fan and second guessing are things every armchair quaterback does. Most "fans" love to kibbitz about how a game went. The damage comes in when a fan, a parent or an AAU coach or anybody else clearly degrades a coach, a team or a program merely because they are dissatisfied for personal reasons. Trashing a coach in front of other parents and especially in front of the players (their own son included) shows nothing but disrespect. Disrespect for the position itself if not for the person in the position. This is counterproductive and leads to all kinds of issues with a team and its players. No, a democracy it will never be and should never be.

 

And lastly, you try taking some of the criticisms leveled at some coaches (personal attacks, villification, rumor mongoring) and see if you wouldn't take some of it personally. Despite what you might believe, coaches are human and humans have emotions and feelings.

 

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This is probably the most accurate statement that could be made in this thread. Everyone questions coaches at all levels whether they have anything to do with the teams or not. Questioning the coach of your team in front of other parents or players involved only causes more problems and it is very disrespectful.

This is probably the most accurate statement that could be made in this thread. Everyone questions coaches at all levels whether they have anything to do with the teams or not. Questioning the coach of your team in front of other parents or players involved only causes more problems and it is very disrespectful.

 

Absolutely....I will never agree with any other person 100% of the time on anything. If it is another person that thinks they know more about my kid than me, I'll probably NEVER agree with them. The thing is...when you're dealing with teenagers........parents are always the last to know anything. The coach probably does know more about my teenager than I do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man, that hurt.:cry: