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Champion Bashing--All "A" Variety

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I'm reposting most of my thoughts from a response I made in another thread, as I felt that strongly this topic needed to be addressed for the sake of the PLAYER'S involved, who I know read this site!!

 

My original thoughts as follows:

 

Several comments and a thread were started by a supporter of a larger, district rival school, who was on the original Brossart/Bardstown game thread, trying to jealously diminish from the NKY schools' recent hard fought triumph in the All "A" classic; which to the roughly 120 participants is considered a state championship, regardless of who promotes it?? ....... trying to belittle 17-18 year old kids' lifelong goals & dreams in some cases; and both are very wrong, intentional or not!!

 

Last year the Brossart Mustangs lost in the semis to eventual champion Bardstown, and their supporters congratulated them on their win. The year before one of the finest teams in school history, lost in the finals to Hazard; and again the support and congrats were extended from the Mustang faithful. This year BB managed to work their way through one of the finest fields in recent years, defeating the defending champions, as well as the 7-time champs along the way!! The kids' reward for all their blood, sweat & tears is having to get on BGP and listen to a few (note--No Bardstown fans among them) try and belittle their accomplishments by saying "it's not a real state championship", "it's no more than another tourney", "should you have to decide to play the All "A" or the Sweet Sixteen", etc. No one is doubting that the ultimate goal of every KY basketball team on October 15th is to hold the big trophy on Saturday night at Rupp?? Everyone realizes the KHSAA recognizes one-class basketball in the state of KY, but for the smaller schools, who rarely get the opportunity to even make it to Rupp, much less lift the heavy hardware; should they have to endure bashing and belittling of their hard earned accomplishment when they win the All "A"??????

 

Fortunately I was in attendance at the CovCath/Scott game last night and saw one of the Brossart Mustang players, who was enthusiasticly and warmly congratulated throughout the game by both Scott and CovCath supporters & students alike. He was interviewed by CCH internet radio, and treated warmly by lifelong opponents & high school basketball fans in general; but most importantly to him, recognized as a STATE CHAMPION by all who came his way!! These are the memories I sincerely hope he takes with him through the remainder of the year, and on into graduation & life; not the jealous rants of a few "wanta-be's" and "never were's"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Go Mustangs--You Made Us Proud!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Maybe I'm getting on my soapbox a little, but again I felt strongly enough and care deeply enough about the kids involved to address this matter in a new thread!! Call the All "A" what you will, but about 120 participants (roughly half of the basketball playing high schoold in the state) started a couple weeks ago in regional tourneys and culminated in a four day matchup @ EKU which determined ONE Champion (format sound familiar)!!

 

Argue multi-classed vs. one-classed hoops, public vs. private, size of an "A" school; but don't try to tell those boys (and the many teams before them) they aren't STATE CHAMPS!!!! :thumb:

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A state title is a state title, Brossart will be hanging that banner proudly in their gym and everyone associated with the school should be VERY proud of their accomplishment.

:ylsuper: :ylsuper: :ylsuper: :ylsuper: Well said. There will always be people that root against you no matter what. Don't let a few things said on a website diminish your accomplishments.

who was enthusiasticly and warmly congratulated throughout the game by both Scott and CovCath supporters & students alike. He was interviewed by CCH internet radio, and treated warmly by lifelong opponents & high school basketball fans in general; but most importantly to him, recognized as a STATE CHAMPION by all who came his way!!

 

Because these people have CLASS! Unfortunately a lot don't! Everyone recognize jealousy.

 

Great post! Great job Brossart! Good luck in March!

I'm reposting most of my thoughts from a response I made in another thread, as I felt that strongly this topic needed to be addressed for the sake of the PLAYER'S involved, who I know read this site!!

 

My original thoughts as follows:

 

Several comments and a thread were started by a supporter of a larger, district rival school, who was on the original Brossart/Bardstown game thread, trying to jealously diminish from the NKY schools' recent hard fought triumph in the All "A" classic; which to the roughly 120 participants is considered a state championship, regardless of who promotes it?? ....... trying to belittle 17-18 year old kids' lifelong goals & dreams in some cases; and both are very wrong, intentional or not!!

 

Last year the Brossart Mustangs lost in the semis to eventual champion Bardstown, and their supporters congratulated them on their win. The year before one of the finest teams in school history, lost in the finals to Hazard; and again the support and congrats were extended from the Mustang faithful. This year BB managed to work their way through one of the finest fields in recent years, defeating the defending champions, as well as the 7-time champs along the way!! The kids' reward for all their blood, sweat & tears is having to get on BGP and listen to a few (note--No Bardstown fans among them) try and belittle their accomplishments by saying "it's not a real state championship", "it's no more than another tourney", "should you have to decide to play the All "A" or the Sweet Sixteen", etc. No one is doubting that the ultimate goal of every KY basketball team on October 15th is to hold the big trophy on Saturday night at Rupp?? Everyone realizes the KHSAA recognizes one-class basketball in the state of KY, but for the smaller schools, who rarely get the opportunity to even make it to Rupp, much less lift the heavy hardware; should they have to endure bashing and belittling of their hard earned accomplishment when they win the All "A"??????

 

Fortunately I was in attendance at the CovCath/Scott game last night and saw one of the Brossart Mustang players, who was enthusiasticly and warmly congratulated throughout the game by both Scott and CovCath supporters & students alike. He was interviewed by CCH internet radio, and treated warmly by lifelong opponents & high school basketball fans in general; but most importantly to him, recognized as a STATE CHAMPION by all who came his way!! These are the memories I sincerely hope he takes with him through the remainder of the year, and on into graduation & life; not the jealous rants of a few "wanta-be's" and "never were's"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Go Mustangs--You Made Us Proud!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Maybe I'm getting on my soapbox a little, but again I felt strongly enough and care deeply enough about the kids involved to address this matter in a new thread!! Call the All "A" what you will, but about 120 participants (roughly half of the basketball playing high schoold in the state) started a couple weeks ago in regional tourneys and culminated in a four day matchup @ EKU which determined ONE Champion (format sound familiar)!!

 

Argue multi-classed vs. one-classed hoops, public vs. private, size of an "A" school; but don't try to tell those boys (and the many teams before them) they aren't STATE CHAMPS!!!! :thumb:

:thumb: Well said BG, I'll always be proud of our STATE CHAMPIONSHIP ...

I'm reposting most of my thoughts from a response I made in another thread, as I felt that strongly this topic needed to be addressed for the sake of the PLAYER'S involved, who I know read this site!!

 

My original thoughts as follows:

 

Several comments and a thread were started by a supporter of a larger, district rival school, who was on the original Brossart/Bardstown game thread, trying to jealously diminish from the NKY schools' recent hard fought triumph in the All "A" classic; which to the roughly 120 participants is considered a state championship, regardless of who promotes it?? ....... trying to belittle 17-18 year old kids' lifelong goals & dreams in some cases; and both are very wrong, intentional or not!!

 

Last year the Brossart Mustangs lost in the semis to eventual champion Bardstown, and their supporters congratulated them on their win. The year before one of the finest teams in school history, lost in the finals to Hazard; and again the support and congrats were extended from the Mustang faithful. This year BB managed to work their way through one of the finest fields in recent years, defeating the defending champions, as well as the 7-time champs along the way!! The kids' reward for all their blood, sweat & tears is having to get on BGP and listen to a few (note--No Bardstown fans among them) try and belittle their accomplishments by saying "it's not a real state championship", "it's no more than another tourney", "should you have to decide to play the All "A" or the Sweet Sixteen", etc. No one is doubting that the ultimate goal of every KY basketball team on October 15th is to hold the big trophy on Saturday night at Rupp?? Everyone realizes the KHSAA recognizes one-class basketball in the state of KY, but for the smaller schools, who rarely get the opportunity to even make it to Rupp, much less lift the heavy hardware; should they have to endure bashing and belittling of their hard earned accomplishment when they win the All "A"??????

 

Fortunately I was in attendance at the CovCath/Scott game last night and saw one of the Brossart Mustang players, who was enthusiasticly and warmly congratulated throughout the game by both Scott and CovCath supporters & students alike. He was interviewed by CCH internet radio, and treated warmly by lifelong opponents & high school basketball fans in general; but most importantly to him, recognized as a STATE CHAMPION by all who came his way!! These are the memories I sincerely hope he takes with him through the remainder of the year, and on into graduation & life; not the jealous rants of a few "wanta-be's" and "never were's"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Go Mustangs--You Made Us Proud!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Maybe I'm getting on my soapbox a little, but again I felt strongly enough and care deeply enough about the kids involved to address this matter in a new thread!! Call the All "A" what you will, but about 120 participants (roughly half of the basketball playing high schoold in the state) started a couple weeks ago in regional tourneys and culminated in a four day matchup @ EKU which determined ONE Champion (format sound familiar)!!

 

Argue multi-classed vs. one-classed hoops, public vs. private, size of an "A" school; but don't try to tell those boys (and the many teams before them) they aren't STATE CHAMPS!!!! :thumb:

As a Gallatin County Fan also loosing to Bardstown last year who won and now to Brossart this year who won, though hard to swallow, does help our boys continue to keep their heads up and hope for next year! Most of the county papers I believe post the news as Class A State Champs! Brossart Boys know they are, their community,school,teachers,parents and Friends know they are Class A State Champs and that is what is important!

I hope Gallatin and Brossart make it to Rupp Too! Small but mightly!

Also, Does anyone know how the football works? Doesn't Beechwood win Class A state championships often? Why is football Class Champs not belittled the way Class A Basketball is done?

It may not be a sanctioned KHSAA event but all of the smaller schools are invited so it is a state championship as far as that is concerned. Congrats to Brossart, you've earned my respect over the years, I've never been ashamed to lose to the Stangs, they have a quality thing going on in Alexandria, not just on the boy's hardwood.

I would hope that after seventeen years of being a premiere, state-wide, spotlight tournament, participated in by roughly 119 schools annually, that the tournament would be accepted as a "State Championship" caliber tournament.

 

While the KHSAA "Sweet Sixteen" State Tournament will always be the Kentucky Derby of our sport's statewide competition, I would certainly consider the All "A" one of the jewels of the "Triple Crown" with perhaps the KOB or the 5th/3rd being the other.

 

I don't hear too many of the football folks telling NCC that their "A" State Championship was bogus, nor the Russell "Red Devils" nor the CovCath Colonels.

 

The Northern Kentucky media seemed to think that it was a pretty major event or they wouldn't have been in Richmond for five days covering NCC's girls and Brossart's boys. Mike Fields of the Herald Leader didn't miss a Mustangs game and WKYT was there to film highlights from the tournament every day. ICN-6 carried the championship games live on TV and Coach Mike Code will be on 130 Homer - The Sports Animal Wednesday night from 6pm to 7pm. We will have a reception/rally on Sunday that will draw the Mustang nation and we will push over 250 state championship T-Shirts and our seniors will wear "A" STATE CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS.

 

Mudslingers on this site take great pride in bashing anything or everything good that happens to any of their "target" schools. Those who know, know what's going on and appreciate it. My mother taught me long ago that "Sticks and Stones Will Break Your Bones - But Words Can Never Hurt You!"

 

Brossart Mustangs - 2007 - Touchstone Energy All "A" State Champions!

 

Legends!

I know Russellville would have proudly hung the banner of state champ if we had won it this year or last. I think it is sad the lengths that some will go to in order to get a rise out of someone who has had good luck. Congrats to the champs

Over in the football thread, they would have you to believe that your state title is a watered down version of a state title.

 

Don't listen to those individuals. Be proud of your accomplishments. You should be.

Great accomplishment for the Mustangs!!! Winning a state wide tournament is an accomplishment, regardless of whether the KHSAA recognizes it or not.

Bishop Brossart won. I don't see where the fuss is coming from. They're good, often dominant. I thought that was a positive attribute for a team.

 

Congrats Bishop!

Nice Post BGGreen and Mustang.. Way to take up for all of the small schools across the state!

Great post BGGreen.:thumb:

 

We have a runner-up banner fron the 1990 All A state tournament hanging on our gym wall at Owsley County, and we're VERY proud of it.

 

BTW, we also had the MVP of the tournament that year---Jeff "Moose" Moore. I wonder if any other players from a runner-up team have been voted MVP?

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