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  • Colonels_Wear_Blue changed the title to St. Henry names Tim Sullivan head basketball coach
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This is huge for St. Henry, any person with sports knowledge can see what is on the horizon for them. With Sully you are attracting kids from all over into the Catholic system, he is gonna have kids coming from multiple districts. Then the football program starting up is huge as well, gonna get all kinds of 2-3 sport athletes that would have never came to St. Henry before. The combination of the two I expect this program to be top 3 year in and out for the 9th region!

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5 minutes ago, GoBucks97 said:

This is huge for St. Henry, any person with sports knowledge can see what is on the horizon for them. With Sully you are attracting kids from all over into the Catholic system, he is gonna have kids coming from multiple districts. Then the football program starting up is huge as well, gonna get all kinds of 2-3 sport athletes that would have never came to St. Henry before. The combination of the two I expect this program to be top 3 year in and out for the 9th region!

That could happen but there is also the part where the Cru have not been a factor competitively for a few years now. They need a jolt to the system if they want to take the next step. I also don’t know if that next step is immediately being a top 3 team. 
 

With that all said, Sully could absolutely be that catalyst, but I think it’s a tougher job for sure. Potential in the program? Sure. But still don’t think it’s an easy task.

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2 minutes ago, se7ens said:

That could happen but there is also the part where the Cru have not been a factor competitively for a few years now. They need a jolt to the system if they want to take the next step. I also don’t know if that next step is immediately being a top 3 team. 
 

With that all said, Sully could absolutely be that catalyst, but I think it’s a tougher job for sure. Potential in the program? Sure. But still don’t think it’s an easy task.

Well let's see the coaching style alone is gonna get more out of the talent they already have in the system. How demanding he is, the type of structure he provides the kids in the locker room, on the court etc. Not to mention he is a defensive first coach. Playing hard and being in the right spots are what it's all built on. Yes it might take a couple years for some kids with more talent to come.  But he can win with they already have! 

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His name holds some pretty big weight around this area. Think of how CCH is getting a lot of their top end kids in the last 5-10 years. Sully is now able to do the same thing at St.Henry. That's been a thing forever, it's always easier to recruit to the diocese whether you wanna say it like that or not. You tell me what programs and coach you would put above the crusaders when it comes to trajectory?

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5 minutes ago, se7ens said:

That could happen but there is also the part where the Cru have not been a factor competitively for a few years now. They need a jolt to the system if they want to take the next step. I also don’t know if that next step is immediately being a top 3 team. 
 

With that all said, Sully could absolutely be that catalyst, but I think it’s a tougher job for sure. Potential in the program? Sure. But still don’t think it’s an easy task.

I can think of more than a few families that've traditionally been "CCH families" that have virtually washed their hands of the school thanks to Ruthsatz and company who would be more than happy to have their sons settle into playing for a quality basketball coach elsewhere in the diocese.

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Terribly weak district, I played in it. They can dominate that district, Dixie is the only one that will compete with them most years with him at the helm. So in theory yes they are right there 4-8 range easily as early as next year. Then only up from there! 

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7 minutes ago, The Oracle said:

I can think of more than a few families that've traditionally been "CCH families" that have virtually washed their hands of the school thanks to Ruthsatz and company who would be more than happy to have their sons settle into playing for a quality basketball coach elsewhere in the diocese.

Also a great point, won't be a full split.. but even if they are getting 20% of those traditional CCH families it's a big deal. On top of that any Boone County Catholic feeder why wouldn't you send them to St. Henry? Closer and it's someone you might have dealt with before.

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9 minutes ago, GoBucks97 said:

Also a great point, won't be a full split.. but even if they are getting 20% of those traditional CCH families it's a big deal. On top of that any Boone County Catholic feeder why wouldn't you send them to St. Henry? Closer and it's someone you might have dealt with before.

I've been consistently surprised in the last 3 or 4 years talking to Blessed Sacrament and Pius parents who've said their sons are going or want to go to St. Henry. A bunch were basketball parents. They all said their sons knew full well that they'd never play over the newest and greatest that Ruthsatz had coming in from elsewhere. Nick Ruthsatz illustrated that perfectly with his comments belittling Jack Lenihan's son's playing ability. The irony there is that the Ruthsatzes were Pius parishioners and the wife taught at Pius, and I'm pretty sure Joe Fredrick is in the Blessed Sacrament parish.

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1 minute ago, The Oracle said:

I've been consistently surprised in the last 3 or 4 years talking to Blessed Sacrament and Pius parents who've said their sons are going or want to go to St. Henry. A bunch were basketball parents. They all said their sons knew full well that they'd never play over the newest and greatest that Ruthsatz had coming in from elsewhere. Nick Ruthsatz illustrated that perfectly with his comments belittling Jack Lenihan's son's playing ability. The irony there is that the Ruthsatzes were Pius parishioners and the wife taught at Pius, and I'm pretty sure Joe Fredrick is in the Blessed Sacrament parish.

I think that was the issue with it all. I'm part of the diocese as well, and the traditional diocese families hated their sons not playing enough. And In some cases not even making teams, I think they looked for any reason to get away from that regime(still don't get it). Some families are rubbed wrong by CCH now even though it's all under the same direction. I just think that with St. Henry having football and one of the best basketball coaches around. They can instantly be a power, think of several of these other big city regions that have catholic school that dominates. But then there's 1-2 other small catholic that aren't far behind. 

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