1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

So let's see ... headed into the draft Bengals needs were listed as DL, OG, perhaps LB, perhaps a RB late.

Then the Bengals draft arguably the best combo of size and speed DL, 2 LB's, an OG they say can start day 1, a good blocking and power type RB and another OL that may become another OG.

And everyone hates this draft?

Hmmmm .... 

I don't hate it but I am on the "Who Dey" Train forever. 

Like you I think we drafted for our needs and I think we are going to get at least two starters this year out of that bunch. 

2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

So let's see ... headed into the draft Bengals needs were listed as DL, OG, perhaps LB, perhaps a RB late.

Then the Bengals draft arguably the best combo of size and speed DL, 2 LB's, an OG they say can start day 1, a good blocking and power type RB and another OL that may become another OG.

And everyone hates this draft?

Hmmmm .... 

Agreed. Overall solid draft IMO. The only area they didn’t really address was lack of interior pass rush, as they had no interior pass rush last year. Yet they are rolling with the same guys. However, Golden may not be as reliant on a four man pass rush as Lou was. So we may see more blitzing from the athletic LBs they just drafted. Plus maybe one of these undrafted DTs they just signed turn into something. 

8 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

Agreed. Overall solid draft IMO. The only area they didn’t really address was lack of interior pass rush, as they had no interior pass rush last year. Yet they are rolling with the same guys. However, Golden may not be as reliant on a four man pass rush as Lou was. So we may see more blitzing from the athletic LBs they just drafted. Plus maybe one of these undrafted DTs they just signed turn into something. 

I see Stewart rushing from DT at times. Obvious passing situations, put him inside of Trey. That's where Stewart's size and strength can give the team flexibility/options. His agreed strength is bull rush. Move him inside and tell him to collapse the pocket.

1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

I see Stewart rushing from DT at times. Obvious passing situations, put him inside of Trey. That's where Stewart's size and strength can give the team flexibility/options.

Wouldn't they be more effective as bookend rushing DEs?

Just now, theguru said:

Wouldn't they be more effective as bookend rushing DEs?

I am not putting Stewart inside exclusively. I am talking situationally. 

2 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I am not putting Stewart inside exclusively. I am talking situationally. 

I didn't think you were implying that and I suppose as a changeup but with Stewart's freaky athleticism I want him out in space attacking the QB. 

50 minutes ago, theguru said:

I didn't think you were implying that and I suppose as a changeup but with Stewart's freaky athleticism I want him out in space attacking the QB. 

 

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

I see Stewart rushing from DT at times. Obvious passing situations, put him inside of Trey. That's where Stewart's size and strength can give the team flexibility/options. His agreed strength is bull rush. Move him inside and tell him to collapse the pocket.

 

57 minutes ago, theguru said:

Wouldn't they be more effective as bookend rushing DEs?

 

56 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I am not putting Stewart inside exclusively. I am talking situationally. 

Golden did kind of hit on that, on how he doesn’t plan on using only true DTs on the inside to pass rush. That he will move DEs inside. Which the Bengals do have to two bigger very athletic DEs in Murphy and Stewart that could rush from the inside. Possibility of them two rushing from the inside with Trey and Ossai rushing from the outside. Which someone not mentioned much that flashed some at the end of last year, and is also a DE and athletic is Cedric Johnson. So there is possibilities there, and with having a new DC we probably will see things done differently than what we saw with Lou. 

Is it a given that Hendrickson will still be here?

5 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

Is it a given that Hendrickson will still be here?

I assume for 2025 and if not I expect a TON in return if we trade him. 

On the above grades, I suppose one way of looking at it is Chad Reuter gave the Bengals a F.

5 hours ago, theguru said:

I assume for 2025 and if not I expect a TON in return if we trade him. 

I do not expect a ton in a trade if they trade him. Hendrickson and his agent already tried to make a trade happen and couldn't get an offer worth considering for the Bengals. 

18 hours ago, futurecoach said:

In regards to how ESPN had the Bengals players rated. The Bengals picked a few of the players earlier, than where espn had them ranked. So that probably explains their Bengals draft grade they gave. 

Agreed.  They definitely went with need above best player available.

13 hours ago, theguru said:

On the above grades, I suppose one way of looking at it is Chad Reuter gave the Bengals a F.

Interesting grading system. 

13 hours ago, theguru said:

On the above grades, I suppose one way of looking at it is Chad Reuter gave the Bengals a F.

Cleveland's grade is what surprises me.  They draft 2 QB's and 2 RB's.  Almost like they waisted 2 picks.