10 minutes ago, okie1 said:

How many Championships has OCath won in the last 20 years?

So Owensboro wants to look good and put up big numbers, win a lot of games, but fail to win the big one?  

Every program is different and if you want to have envy of one program that has different kids and different skill sets go ahead.

I have seen kids who can flat out fly...who are built like greek gods, and couldn't catch a cold...but by gosh, let's try and throw them the ball because that's the cool thing.

I watched Wimsatt with 4 years of college development struggle to throw the ball with accuracy and consistency this year for UK...but yet he came in to run the zone read?  I guess all those college coaches can't develop a QB either.

The Aces have as many championships as Owensboro in the last 20 years. 0! But they may have played for more championships then Owensboro has in the last 20 years. And they may be .500 head to head against Owensboro in the last 20 years. Idk if me using Owensboro Catholic as an example has upset you but I also used Paducah as an example. And I could have easily used Bowling Green as an example. I mentioned Gavin Wimsatt because you said other schools had generational talent at QB. For Owensboro Wimsatt was a generational talent. Every program is different. You’re absolutely right. And every coaching staff has a different philosophy for their program. Doesn’t mean it’s the best one for that program. Just means it might be the one that coach is most comfortable using. How did Coach Beaty at Trinity come in and take them to new heights with that offense? Bowling Green used to be straight wishbone/broken bone. It’s more than one way to win games. I hope this next coach at OHS understands that.

10 minutes ago, okie1 said:

How many Championships has OCath won in the last 20 years?

So Owensboro wants to look good and put up big numbers, win a lot of games, but fail to win the big one?  

Every program is different and if you want to have envy of one program that has different kids and different skill sets go ahead.

I have seen kids who can flat out fly...who are built like greek gods, and couldn't catch a cold...but by gosh, let's try and throw them the ball because that's the cool thing.

I watched Wimsatt with 4 years of college development struggle to throw the ball with accuracy and consistency this year for UK...but yet he came in to run the zone read?  I guess all those college coaches can't develop a QB either.

The Aces have as many championships as Owensboro in the last 20 years. 0! But they may have played for more championships then Owensboro has in the last 20 years. And they may be .500 head to head against Owensboro in the last 20 years. Idk if me using Owensboro Catholic as an example has upset you but I also used Paducah as an example. And I could have easily used Bowling Green as an example. I mentioned Gavin Wimsatt because you said other schools had generational talent at QB. For Owensboro Wimsatt was a generational talent. Every program is different. You’re absolutely right. And every coaching staff has a different philosophy for their program. Doesn’t mean it’s the best one for that program. Just means it might be the one that coach is most comfortable using. How did Coach Beaty at Trinity come in and take them to new heights with that offense? Bowling Green used to be straight wishbone/broken bone. It’s more than one way to win games. I hope this next coach at OHS understands that.

10 minutes ago, okie1 said:

How many Championships has OCath won in the last 20 years?

So Owensboro wants to look good and put up big numbers, win a lot of games, but fail to win the big one?  

Every program is different and if you want to have envy of one program that has different kids and different skill sets go ahead.

I have seen kids who can flat out fly...who are built like greek gods, and couldn't catch a cold...but by gosh, let's try and throw them the ball because that's the cool thing.

I watched Wimsatt with 4 years of college development struggle to throw the ball with accuracy and consistency this year for UK...but yet he came in to run the zone read?  I guess all those college coaches can't develop a QB either.

The Aces have as many championships as Owensboro in the last 20 years. 0! But they may have played for more championships then Owensboro has in the last 20 years. And they may be .500 head to head against Owensboro in the last 20 years. Idk if me using Owensboro Catholic as an example has upset you but I also used Paducah as an example. And I could have easily used Bowling Green as an example. I mentioned Gavin Wimsatt because you said other schools had generational talent at QB. For Owensboro Wimsatt was a generational talent. Every program is different. You’re absolutely right. And every coaching staff has a different philosophy for their program. Doesn’t mean it’s the best one for that program. Just means it might be the one that coach is most comfortable using. How did Coach Beaty at Trinity come in and take them to new heights with that offense? Bowling Green used to be straight wishbone/broken bone. It’s more than one way to win games. I hope this next coach at OHS understands that.

39 minutes ago, Ordell said:

I understand your view I do but we’ve dealt with some player movement for at least the last 30+ years in Owensboro. We have 4 high schools all within a few miles of each other. So we’ve sometimes had kids that couldn’t crack the starting lineup leave to go where they could play. Or a kid may have friends that they grew up playing AAU basketball, or travel baseball with, all be at a rival school. So a kid may transfer to be with his friends. I look at it like someone changing jobs. If you’re not happy where you are currently you have the freedom to go find happiness. IMO the only thing a school system, or sports program, can do is try and create an environment that appeals to kids and families. Just like a corporation has too. For sports I think you do that by having an exciting brand of ball. A nurturing culture that emphasizes the well being of the kids, morals, and education. A program that promotes their athletes by giving them exposure through 7 on 7 tourneys, college camps, recruiting help, etc. And finally a program that fosters a brotherhood amongst the players and former players. 

Since 2020 (counting a 12 game '20 season- no I didn't count a 'covid win', just like I wouldn't have a 'covid loss'. Those were dumb)

Owensboro has averaged each year.

13 games/season

40 PPG

3,877 yards of offense

I'll just go ahead and say it, but who the coach is & the schemes are, sounds like the least of Owensboro's problem (and, that's acknowledging the rest of the post was already happening. Because if they've been as successful as they've been over the years despite those things going on? Then they are a unicorn)

21 minutes ago, Westernside said:

It's crazy because Oboro has a guy on staff that knows how to have a 3,000 yard passer and multiple  receivers put up big numbers. Coach Barnes knows the Franklin system really well. He ran it and Coached it. If Oboro wants that kind of offense he would be the guy to run it.

It’s a been a philosophy thing more then not having the talent or coaches to run that particular offense IMO.

2 minutes ago, Calico Jack said:

Since 2020 (counting a 12 game '20 season- no I didn't count a 'covid win', just like I wouldn't have a 'covid loss'. Those were dumb)

Owensboro has averaged each year.

13 games/season

40 PPG

3,877 yards of offense

I'll just go ahead and say it, but who the coach is & the schemes are, sounds like the least of Owensboro's problem (and, that's acknowledging the rest of the post was already happening. Because if they've been as successful as they've been over the years despite those things going on? Then they are a unicorn)

They have been successful but #’s can be misleading because Owensboro only plays 2-3 high level teams yearly. You can run the #’s up against Apollo, Breckenridge County, Henderson County, Daviess County, Ohio County, etc. Now let’s look at the games against Bowling Green, Owensboro Catholic, CAL, St X, etc.

Just curious, has Owensboro ever lost 4 in a row to OCath?

5 minutes ago, Calico Jack said:

Since 2020 (counting a 12 game '20 season- no I didn't count a 'covid win', just like I wouldn't have a 'covid loss'. Those were dumb)

Owensboro has averaged each year.

13 games/season

40 PPG

3,877 yards of offense

I'll just go ahead and say it, but who the coach is & the schemes are, sounds like the least of Owensboro's problem (and, that's acknowledging the rest of the post was already happening. Because if they've been as successful as they've been over the years despite those things going on? Then they are a unicorn)

I’ll give another example. We have a phenomenal running back on Frederica Street. In 2023 he was our leading rusher and receiver. This is while we also had Morris, Winstead, Crowe, etc. on the team. IMO we were predictable on offense because the defense didn’t have to respect those other kids because we hadn’t developed the offense enough to make them threats. This is just my opinion though. 

5 minutes ago, Ordell said:

They have been successful but #’s can be misleading because Owensboro only plays 2-3 high level teams yearly. You can run the #’s up against Apollo, Breckenridge County, Henderson County, Daviess County, Ohio County, etc. Now let’s look at the games against Bowling Green, Owensboro Catholic, CAL, St X, etc.

Here is a crazy idea.....

Maybe those teams have just been....wait for it.......

Better.

1 minute ago, Subway5024 said:

Just curious, has Owensboro ever lost 4 in a row to OCath?

I doubt it. And we shouldn’t lose to them this year. (Fingers crossed!)

3 minutes ago, Calico Jack said:

Here is a crazy idea.....

Maybe those teams have just been....wait for it.......

Better.

Yes they probably were in most of those cases. Just like Owensboro was just better than Apollo, Daviess Co., etc. But I’m not so much debating the wins and losses. As much as I am what the product on the field looks like.

25 minutes ago, Ordell said:

The Aces have as many championships as Owensboro in the last 20 years. 0! But they may have played for more championships then Owensboro has in the last 20 years. And they may be .500 head to head against Owensboro in the last 20 years. Idk if me using Owensboro Catholic as an example has upset you but I also used Paducah as an example. And I could have easily used Bowling Green as an example. I mentioned Gavin Wimsatt because you said other schools had generational talent at QB. For Owensboro Wimsatt was a generational talent. Every program is different. You’re absolutely right. And every coaching staff has a different philosophy for their program. Doesn’t mean it’s the best one for that program. Just means it might be the one that coach is most comfortable using. How did Coach Beaty at Trinity come in and take them to new heights with that offense? Bowling Green used to be straight wishbone/broken bone. It’s more than one way to win games. I hope this next coach at OHS understands that.

You used Wimsatt, and we will never know if having a generational talent was enough to get Owensboro over the hump because he dipped a few games in to his senior year.

My point is this.  It seems as though Owensboro is looking for greener grass...hopefully they find it...but there is also a chance, that the grass isn't always greener!

 

Just curious, is @theguru giving a percent of clicks revenue to the Owensboro administration?

I mean, we are on page 33 now. 

18 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Just curious, is @theguru giving a percent of clicks revenue to the Owensboro administration?

I mean, we are on page 33 now. 

The Madness will never end 

18 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Just curious, is @theguru giving a percent of clicks revenue to the Owensboro administration?

I mean, we are on page 33 now. 

Will the madness ever end????