3 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:

This has become very popular in Newport; especially on the East Row where there are a lot renovated beautiful homes. The problem is, very few, if any, of the young families in that area are sending their kids to Newport. If they do have kids they are sending them to private schools in the NKY area and across the river or paying tuition to go to one of the better performing public schools. 

Jinx ? 

16 minutes ago, gchs_uk9 said:

Have been told that some of these communities are starting to see young professionals move in from Cincinnati. Is that true? If so, it could help the schools financially because of increased taxes but often those folks don't have tons of children so it might not help enrollment. (And of course I could be wrong about all of this!)

Dayton had the Manhattan Development Group buy the property along the front of the flood wall maybe 15 years ago now, and they've been working on developing it into Manhattan Boulevard, which is intended to be a mixed residential/business/restaurant district. Thus far they have the Gateway Flats apartments which opened in 2021. The apartments lease from around $1600-2800 per month and are aimed at attracting the young urban professional set. They have also started building standalone single-family/patio homes that start at $350K - that price point is definitely going to be a new high-end to the residential real estate in Dayton. I think there are only 3 or 4 of those homes built thus far. Then there are still probably 15 to 20 more buildings planned as a part of the overall development. If the complete Manhattan Harbour development plan ever sees real fruition, that will definitely bring some much-needed tax money into Dayton.




Bellevue had the Waters Edge Condos, which sell for around $1.1 MM, that were built in 2007.



There's also the Harbor Greene commercial building in Bellevue that went up around 2011, and the Harbor Greene condos that are upwards of $1.25MM a pop.  





Bellevue has had all the money coming in from all of those new(ish) buildings for over a decade now, plus the tax money that comes with them...and let's not forget about The Party Source in Bellevue, which is literally the largest liquor store in the country.

Looking from the outside, I see Dayton High School as a little more up and coming lately, and Bellevue High School, which seems like they should have a much bigger boost based on all of the real estate investment in the city, seeming to be on a disappointing decline.

32 minutes ago, FirstTimeLongTime said:

This is true. Bellevue has become a hot spot for young professionals. The issue is when they begin having families, they either move or they send their kids to private schools in Ohio, NCC or pay tuition at Highlands. 

I know it has been discussed and there would be hurdles but I would love to see Bellevue and Dayton combine. Maybe even add in Newport. 

I spoke to an administrator from Erlanger-Elsmere schools some years ago about the abundance of small independent school districts in NKY, specifically discussing the topic of why at least Bellevue Independent and Dayton Independent don't combine. I wish I could remember exactly what they said, but I seem to recall that, beyond the history/tradition aspect of it, there was actually a somewhat understandable reason why they don't combine.

It's pretty surprising how many independent school districts there are in such a relatively small area in NKY: Beechwood Independent, Bellevue Independent, Covington Independent, Dayton Independent, Erlanger-Elsmere Independent, Fort Thomas Independent, Ludlow Independent, Newport Independent, and Walton-Verona Independent. I'm not exactly positive of it, but I think the only independent school district in the area to have merged in with another district since the big push for consolidation back in the 1950s was Silver Grove Independent, which merged into Campbell County Public Schools after the 2018-19 school year.

15 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I spoke to an administrator from Erlanger-Elsmere schools some years ago about the abundance of small independent school districts in NKY, specifically discussing the topic of why at least Bellevue Independent and Dayton Independent don't combine. I wish I could remember exactly what they said, but I seem to recall that, beyond the history/tradition aspect of it, there was actually a somewhat understandable reason why they don't combine.

It's pretty surprising how many independent school districts there are in such a relatively small area in NKY: Beechwood Independent, Bellevue Independent, Covington Independent, Dayton Independent, Erlanger-Elsmere Independent, Fort Thomas Independent, Ludlow Independent, Newport Independent, and Walton-Verona Independent. I'm not exactly positive of it, but I think the only independent school district in the area to have merged in with another district since the big push for consolidation back in the 1950s was Silver Grove Independent, which merged into Campbell County Public Schools after the 2018-19 school year.

I think a hurdle that prevents combining some of these schools is how you decide who stays and who goes in relatively high paying education jobs. Suddenly you have two superintendents, principals, assistant principals, school boards, etc. Teacher wise you would probably be ok because you would need more teachers for the larger student body. 

Tax bases could also play into the issue. I believe that Dayton actually has some of the highest taxes in Northern Kentucky. Would that mean Bellevue needs to up their taxes so each side is paying their equal share? I don't know how that would work. 

Buildings would be another issue. Could both Dayton and Bellevue fit in one or the other? 

I definitely don't have the answers, just spit balling on reasons why it doesn't happen. 

1 minute ago, Kenny Powers said:

I think a hurdle that prevents combining some of these schools how you decide who stays and who goes in relatively high paying education jobs. Suddenly you have two superintendents, principals, assistant principals, school boards, etc. Teacher wise you would probably be ok because you would need more teachers for the larger student body. 

Tax bases could also play into the issue. I believe that Dayton actually has some of the highest taxes in Northern Kentucky. Would that mean Bellevue needs to up their taxes so each side is paying their equal share? I don't know how that would work. 

Buildings would be another issue. Could both Dayton and Bellevue fit in one or the other? 

I definitely don't have the answers, just spit balling on reasons why it doesn't happen. 

I think that may have been it...I was thinking tax rates played some role in the discussion. That means you have to have multiple cities that are agreeing on tax rates to go into schools. If Bellevue and Dayton are taxing at different rates, that's a big deal to get those cities to agree on the issue.

1 hour ago, FirstTimeLongTime said:

This is true. Bellevue has become a hot spot for young professionals. The issue is when they begin having families, they either move or they send their kids to private schools in Ohio, NCC or pay tuition at Highlands. 

I know it has been discussed and there would be hurdles but I would love to see Bellevue and Dayton combine. Maybe even add in Newport. 

I think this is a great idea. So many rural schools have combined to make one larger school. These 3 school are so close to each other that it just makes sense. I know it would sure help their athletics numbers but that shouldn’t be the reason for doing it. 

54 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:

I think a hurdle that prevents combining some of these schools is how you decide who stays and who goes in relatively high paying education jobs. Suddenly you have two superintendents, principals, assistant principals, school boards, etc. Teacher wise you would probably be ok because you would need more teachers for the larger student body. 

Tax bases could also play into the issue. I believe that Dayton actually has some of the highest taxes in Northern Kentucky. Would that mean Bellevue needs to up their taxes so each side is paying their equal share? I don't know how that would work. 

Buildings would be another issue. Could both Dayton and Bellevue fit in one or the other? 

I definitely don't have the answers, just spit balling on reasons why it doesn't happen. 

Normally when they combine schools a new school is built to accommodate the additional students. Bellevue and Dayton are both very old schools and I highly doubt a merged school would fit in the current facilities. 

1 minute ago, BWTigers said:

Normally when they combine schools a new school is built to accommodate the additional students. Bellevue and Dayton are both very old schools and I highly doubt a merged school would fit in the current facilities. 

I think that would have to be the case and it makes sense. Not sure if the money is there for that but I think if it is possible it would benefit the students on many levels, not just athletics. 

As far as sending kids to other schools than the cities you live in, my uncle told me there are 26 kids with Newport addresses that go to St Catherine (in Ft. Thomas) instead of Holy Trinity Schools (the consolidation of the Newport, Bellevue, and Dayton parishes). Also the house my dad grew up in, in Newport had a Highlands dance team sign in the yard a couple years ago. Take a stroll through the East End of Newport and you'll see just as many school signs for schools outside of Newport as you will for the Wildcats. Like said before Bellevue has had a big influx of young people who have no intention of starting a family or sending their children to Bellevue schools for whatever reason.

Are their enough boys in the hallways to have a competitive team if they all came out for football?

The Enquirer has confirmed that Bellevue's season is over. Bellevue's AD is citing a limited number of healthy players.

It appears that Holmes and Lloyd Memorial are now playing each other on October 28. Holmes was scheduled to play Bellevue that week while Lloyd had an open week and previously had only a nine-game schedule. I hate that Bellevue had to call it quits but I'm glad there was enough time to get some games rescheduled.

I hate hearing this for Bellevue. They have a great history and I hate to see them down like this. I truly believe they will eventually bounce back from this. 
 

I personally went through something similar first hand when I was in high school at another little river school at Ludlow. 
 

From the start of 2000 my freshman year, to 2003 we had a 33 game losing streak. During that losing streak we weren’t even close in any game and usually had running clocks on us until 2003. In 2002 we completely hit a low point and had a game down at Raceland where we only had 13 healthy players, and one player somehow forgot his helmet so we only had 12 that could play that game lol. We finished that year with 15 total players on the roster. So we legit was at the lowest of lows as a program. 
 

Luckily we had a new head coach come in 2003 in Steve Hensley who really helped re energize the program and got kids to come out and just really start to believe. We also had two really good assistant coaches at the time that stuck it out with us all those losing  years in Randy Borchers and Mark Childress and stayed when Hensley took over. We were able to break the losing streak that year and even earned ourselves a playoff spot that year back when it was just four classes and we had 6 teams in our district. 
 

Ludlow obviously has been pretty steady as a program since that time and doing well. So it can be done, and I hope those young players for Bellevue stick around and start to believe because they can turn it around over the next few years. It sucks going through it, but it can be done. Keep grinding this off season, talk friends into playing, because they definitely can turn this around and get back to being a good proud program they have always been. 

I hate to see this for the kids and the community.  For the past 2+ decades, I have had a fondness for Bellevue football.

I am a 1990 grad of Covington Catholic.  Brian Williams was my classmate, teammate and friend.  When he passed in the WTC attack on 9/11, it added a mark of sadness to the fear most of us felt on that day and the subsequent weeks.

That Friday, 9/14, Bellevue was one of the few teams that decided to help people get back to normal and held their game (vs Danville.). As part of my job at the time, I was sent to cover that game.  The coach of the Tigers at the time was Bill Arnzen.  As he was on the field, readying his team for the game, he passed and asked how I was doing.  I told him I was scared like a lot of people and upset because of Willie.  Arnzen said he was sorry and then just said, "Tell me about him."

Here was a man trying to do his job and get ready for a game, but he took time out of that to talk to a guy going through some stuff at the time.  We spent a good 10 minutes talking about Brian and eventually the upcoming game.

He didn't have to do that, but that was the kind of guy he was and the kind of coaches and teachers Bellevue could be proud of.

Danville won the game, 58-0, but that didn't really matter.  I became a Bellevue "fan" for what happened before the game, not during.

9 hours ago, gchs_uk9 said:

It appears that Holmes and Lloyd Memorial are now playing each other on October 28. Holmes was scheduled to play Bellevue that week while Lloyd had an open week and previously had only a nine-game schedule. I hate that Bellevue had to call it quits but I'm glad there was enough time to get some games rescheduled.

That is big news in 2A RPI discussion.