Bob Schneider has a ton of wins because he has been around forever. He also has a ton of losses.

 

His offense was extremely vanilla until he turned over the reigns to his son. If there ever was guy who played every stuation "by the book" it was Bob.

 

He has two state titles, but he has to have considerably more talent than the teams he is playing to advance (how exactly did Beechwood beat him last year).

 

You can win lots of games, you can even win state championships, and that does not necessarily mean you are a great coach. I don't really think Glaser is anything to write home about, because I think given his situation many many coaches could do what he does. Ditto for Schneider. There are many coaches who could dupicate the results that Schneider gets on the field.

 

I have allot of respect for Coach Schneider, but I have to agree with Old Bird on this one. He gets the pick of the litter out of Campbell Cty and has won 2 state championships. Mike Yeagle gets the pick of the litter from Ft.Mitchell and has accomplished more in terms of Championships and for the most part out coached NCC often. If Yeagle coachs again and Mueller stays as along as Schneider has been at NCC, they could catch him in wins, have less losses and have way more championships. Now with that said Bob is still a good coach and has done well for himself.

Bob Schneider has a ton of wins because he has been around forever. He also has a ton of losses.

 

His offense was extremely vanilla until he turned over the reigns to his son. If there ever was guy who played every stuation "by the book" it was Bob.

 

He has two state titles, but he has to have considerably more talent than the teams he is playing to advance (how exactly did Beechwood beat him last year).

 

You can win lots of games, you can even win state championships, and that does not necessarily mean you are a great coach. I don't really think Glaser is anything to write home about, because I think given his situation many many coaches could do what he does. Ditto for Schneider. There are many coaches who could dupicate the results that Schneider gets on the field.

I agree totally OB.....Schneider is a way overrated coach...It used to be painful to watch his offense... They have had way to much talent over the years on the hill not to have won more state championships..

Mike Holcomb has to rank up there pretty fair on peoples list. With a small school and what talent he has had at his disposial he has managed over 200 wins and 3 state championships with three different quarterbacks. That to me is a feat in itself.

Out of the top ten all time wins, only 5 coaches are still active.

 

 

Schnieder- 64% winning % 2-4 in title games

Hilton- 73% 1-0 in title games

Haywood- 72% 2-2 in title games

Redmon- 72% 3-3 in title games

Harp- 78% 7-2 in title games 2-0 head to head with Schnieder

2nd all time in state championships trailing Yeagle. 1-1 vs Yeagle head to head in title games.

 

The numbers have spoken. My vote goes to Harp.

Out of the top ten all time wins, only 5 coaches are still active.

 

 

Schnieder- 64% winning % 2-4 in title games

Hilton- 73% 1-0 in title games

Haywood- 72% 2-2 in title games

Redmon- 72% 3-3 in title games

Harp- 78% 7-2 in title games 2-0 head to head with Schnieder

2nd all time in state championships trailing Yeagle. 1-1 vs Yeagle head to head in title games.

 

The numbers have spoken. My vote goes to Harp.

 

Hilton is 2-0 in title games.

I think u have to look at what a coach has to work with talent wise and then make your conclusions on coaches...like Bob Redman at Male...hes a great coach and has done great things but look at what he has had to work with...and look at what Larry French has done not only at Lincoln but Meade and Mercer...talent is exactly easy to come by in any of those situations...but he still has produced solid ballteams...I guess what I'm trying to say is that a great coach shouldnt be judged by how much he wins but what he does with the resources available

Rodenberg from covcath and Tom Spritzky from Dixie. Although Dale Mueler is good I believe others have the edge on him this year

I don't want to be argumentative as this type of thread is begging for only opinions, but I must say I don't understand your post. Rodenberg is now 1-1 vs Mueller. He beat him Friday on a miracle pass at the end of time. Not sure if that means he has an edge on him this year or not. But at least there is the win this year in support of your post. But Tom? Highlands blew them off the field again this year. I like Tom, always have, as well as his parents and brother Doug, but I completely disagree with your thought that Tom is a better coach than Dale, not this year nor any other year that they have been coaching. Why do you think Tom has the edge on Dale this year if you don't mind me asking?

Out of the top ten all time wins, only 5 coaches are still active.

 

 

Schnieder- 64% winning % 2-4 in title games

Hilton- 73% 1-0 in title games

Haywood- 72% 2-2 in title games

Redmon- 72% 3-3 in title games

Harp- 78% 7-2 in title games 2-0 head to head with Schnieder

2nd all time in state championships trailing Yeagle. 1-1 vs Yeagle head to head in title games.

 

The numbers have spoken. My vote goes to Harp.

 

I'm just assuming that you looked at the top 9, since #10 is Glaser. 82% winning percentage and is 6-3 in the finals.

I think u have to look at what a coach has to work with talent wise and then make your conclusions on coaches...like Bob Redman at Male...hes a great coach and has done great things but look at what he has had to work with...and look at what Larry French has done not only at Lincoln but Meade and Mercer...talent is exactly easy to come by in any of those situations...but he still has produced solid ballteams...I guess what I'm trying to say is that a great coach shouldnt be judged by how much he wins but what he does with the resources available

I agree, and under that philosophy, Redman isn't all that great of a coach. He has not maximized the potential he has had at Male. Running one coverage defensively never maximizes your potential, IMO.

I agree, and under that philosophy, Redman isn't all that great of a coach. He has not maximized the potential he has had at Male. Running one coverage defensively never maximizes your potential, IMO.

 

 

How many rings does this guy have? I will admit he is not as good a Mueller, but he is top 5 easily.

Top 5 Coaches:

1. Mueller-Highlands

2. Beatty- Trinity

3. Redman- Male

4. Schneider- NCC

5. Haywood- Belfry

 

Honorable Mention: Harp- Danville, Hilton-Bell, McGlone-Russell, Downs- Bardstown, Glaser- St. X, Holcomb- Breathitt, Roark-Middlesboro, Larkey-Rockcastle, Morris- Mayfield

 

Now in terms of young coaches who will be there one day:

Edge- Owensboro Catholic, Matney-Johnson Central, French-Lincoln Co., Hager- Sheldon Clark, Simpson- Henry Clay

 

 

This is Edge's 3rd year as a head coach. These other guys aren't as young as him are they. French and Simpson will be up there sooner.

I'm just assuming that you looked at the top 9, since #10 is Glaser. 82% winning percentage and is 6-3 in the finals.

 

I did not take into account the private schools that have 1000 boys to choose from.

I did not take into account the private schools that have 1000 boys to choose from.

 

Did you take into account the public schools that have over 1,000 boys to choose from?

Here is what I've found:

 

Sam Harp has 7 titles and is 7-2 in the state title game since 1989.

 

Mike Glaser has 6 titles and is 6-3 in the state title game.

 

Dale Mueller has 5 titles and is 5-2 in the Big game.

 

Bob Redman has 3 titles and is 3-3 in the State Final.

 

Bob Beatty has 4 titles and is 4-1 in the Finals.

 

 

 

I can easily be corrected on this but I think this is a collection of all the active coaches that have 3 or more titles to their name. Many mentioned already don't have as many rings as these guys.

 

Looking at this list as the criteria you could make some strong cases for most of these guys. Beatty, Glaser, Mueller all stand out to me. But my bias kicks in and I have to go with Sam Harp. Nine state finals since 1989 (I know his first year at Danville was '88) is pretty good and to win 7 of those is even better. The numbers to these guys outweigh a lot of the other arguments to me about overall win numbers and winning a recent title or two. While we could say that Harp has the advantage of an historically strong program, remember that he has won 7 of Danville's 10 state titles. He took a great program and made them a premier one. :thumb:

I am not sure if there is one in the whole state that does have a public school with 1000 boys. There is not one in the top 10. Also, i think you must take into acount the other stops coaches have had along the way. Harp's record is not based solely on his success at Danville. If that were the case he would be close if not in the 90% range in winning percentage. Where else was Glaser before he was at X. Harp was at Calloway and Anderson. He led Anderson to the only undefeted team in school history in 1985. Was he ever at a public school that forced him to change his offensive and defensive systems based on the type of players he has. I know that if I am at X or Trinity I can stay pretty consistent with what I do, because there will be enough turnover year after year to have players that can run your system. For example, if I have a quarterback that can't throw then I better change it up if I am in a throwing system. In those larger private schools you will for the most part have guys that can fit your system because of the numbers you have to choose from. Danville constantly has to change what they do year to year because players graduate and you don't have 100 new freshmen a year. That forces you to fit your offense to your personnel. That's coaching.