It is for the black ones.

 

Thinking of it from a different perspective...is it okay for white people to laugh at those types of jokes by black comedians?

Back to Papa John...

 

He is alleging that the consulting firm from the conference call tried to extort him for $6 million to make the story go away. When he refused, the leaked the story to Forbes.

Thinking of it from a different perspective...is it okay for white people to laugh at those types of jokes by black comedians?

 

Of course. If they find it funny then laugh. More often than not when black comedians use it they aren’t using it in a demeaning way. Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy have had audiences filled with white people. In my experiences when blacks use the n word in a demeaning manner in the presence of white people the white people get incredibly uncomfortable. Clearly these folks at these events aren’t feeling uncomfortable when it is used.

 

Also, if someone is uncomfortable by the use of that word in any form why would they be listening to comedians who use the word regularly? I don’t like country music so I don’t listen to it.

Back to Papa John...

 

He is alleging that the consulting firm from the conference call tried to extort him for $6 million to make the story go away. When he refused, the leaked the story to Forbes.

 

His word is trash. Poor fella is trying to save himself because he isn’t a smart human being.

Back to Papa John...

 

He is alleging that the consulting firm from the conference call tried to extort him for $6 million to make the story go away. When he refused, the leaked the story to Forbes.

 

He's deflecting, IMO. But, if that's true, it should be pretty easy to prove.

The only time the divide comes up concerning this word is when white people use it or try to rationalize why they can’t use it. It’s simple to me. I never use the saltine equivalent slur like George Jefferson used to and I never use the H word that rhymes with donkey. I expect the same from caucasians in reverse. It’s called respect.

 

Perfect lead in here. If you and I were having a conversation about someone, and in that conversation you stated "oh man, I was talking to Joe the other day about coach Jones, and Joe called coach a fat "saltine", I wouldn't think a thing about it and wouldn't think of that as a racist statement from you or think you a racist for using the word in that context. It's all about context people. But if you don't use that word ever, no matter the context, that's cool too and I'm good with that.

 

Now John Schnatter might be the most racist piece of trash on the planet, I don't know the guy and don't know anything of his background. But, in general, the way the debated word was supposedly used in the conversation, it wasn't used as a word to describe someone, it was used as a statement of fact, in that someone used "that word" all the time in the past.

 

Now, obviously it wasn't smart for him to use the word as it's a very controversial word and without knowing all the other parties on the other end of the line you never know who might be offended by the use of the word, regardless of the context in which it was being used (as seen in this thread). And, obviously someone was offended by it, as here we are now, talking of the aftermath of the word being used.

 

Now, I agree

it's better just to not use that word at all...by anyone...but context is important.

He's obviously smart. He made a mediocre pizza into a personal net worth of a billion dollars. Now he should just go away. We've had more than enough of him.

But it's still okay for comedians and movie stars to say it?

Are you talking about when they are playing a part in a movie or just everyday conversation? To me yes on the former and hell no on the latter.

He's obviously smart. He made a mediocre pizza into a personal net worth of a billion dollars. Now he should just go away. We've had more than enough of him.

 

Debatable. I’ve never subscribed to the belief that finding a way to make a billion dollars makes you smart. Access and networking are more important than brain power.

He's obviously smart. He made a mediocre pizza into a personal net worth of a billion dollars. Now he should just go away. We've had more than enough of him.

 

He may be smart, but his ego is beyond outsized, which causes otherwise smart people to not do the smart thing on more cases than I care to point out here.

He may be smart, but his ego is beyond outsized, which causes otherwise smart people to not do the smart thing on more cases than I care to point out here.

 

Me not knowing the guy at all or his past, maybe you can speak to the "hate" for Schnatter. What has he done/how has he acted in the past to get this unflattering reputation? I still haven't gotten an answer to that question other than "he's just a terrible person". Is that based on fact or rumors/talk people have heard about him and just repeat? A lot of people on here seem to knowingly speak of him being a jerk, and I just wonder how they know that.

 

Now I have my own Schnatter story that was told to me several years ago first hand by a former supposed friend/employee that Schnatter fired as soon as he made it big, but I had to take that with a grain of salt as it just might be the ramblings of a disgruntled former employee, but it sure didn't put Papa in a good light for sure.

Debatable. I’ve never subscribed to the belief that finding a way to make a billion dollars makes you smart. Access and networking are more important than brain power.

 

Disagree strongly. Too many variables to get past for access and networking to get you to a billion dollars net worth from the closet of a bar.

He may be smart, but his ego is beyond outsized, which causes otherwise smart people to not do the smart thing on more cases than I care to point out here.

 

Don't know about him in particular but I do agree with your premise.

Disagree strongly. Too many variables to get past for access and networking to get you to a billion dollars net worth from the closet of a bar.

 

It took him a long time to get that net worth. Let’s not act like he became a billionaire in a year. More like almost 30 years. Access and networking helped him a lot more than his brain power.

It took him a long time to get that net worth. Let’s not act like he became a billionaire in a year. More like almost 30 years. Access and networking helped him a lot more than his brain power.

 

Doesn't work that way. If he made it in a year it would be luck. Making it over 30 years with all the obstacles it takes to get to a billion dollars in net worth, that's brains.