That’s why l would like to know the schools involved that have been successful and those that have not. I’m no conspiracy theorist but I have seen certain areas get benefit of the doubt and others not.....

I call baloney on this post. Let's talk about the facts in these instances and not get off on some high horse the world is falling apart stuff.

 

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My big point here is if officials make a mistake, the players should have an opportunity to appeal and be reinstated the next game. I don't think that is the case under the rules.

 

However, I am interested in hearing more about the Franklin Simpson situation FSfan mentioned above. My guess is the key there is the officials' report of the ejection. If some of the game officials state in their report that the player should not have been ejected, then that is probably what opened the door for the KHSAA.

 

I remember now that it was the FS-Glasgow game. I made mention of it in the FS-Glasgow update thread from Sept. 22. It was at Glasgow and in the fourth quarter two opposing players were engaged in a block after the whistle blew. Definitely worth offsetting unsportsmanlike penalties but there was no punchIng or anything like that. I don't remember the game being chippy at all before that. Both players were ejected but they were appealed and both played the next week. Don't have any inside information about it as far as who the official was or how the process went.

One factor many may think frivolous (or even unrelated) is the whitehat was miched. His penalty explanations were uncomfortably explained (maybe stage fright). First time I can recall a HS whitehat being onstage. Could this have contributed to ejecting a player from both teams, rather than just the instigator...keeping hostility from the home crowd at a minimum?????? Just wondering.

It’s up to the coaches to make sure that his players are aware that they will be seeing officials from outside their region and they may well make calls against them that they are ts used to having called. Players have to keep their composure.

I’ve not known of player ejections overturned but Hazard had there head coach ejected in the Pike County bowl against Pikeville and they must of got it overturned because he was coaching the next week.

There is an appeal process and it is a valid appeal process. If requested the khsaa reviews all film available as well as interviews involved parties. I have seen several appeals successful. I think this thread is just about misinformation.

 

As the thread has gone on and more information is posted, it is looking more like you may be right and I may be wrong about the opportunity for appeal. But, the thread succeeded in getting more information out about the appeals process.

 

I still question the ejections. I don't think officials should be so quick to eject players, especially in the playoffs. Both of the situations I posted in this thread are questionable ejections.

Ejections can be appealed and won with video evidence.

 

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Does anyone know if any words where exchanged during the ejections? I mean on the field and video we see actions but not words because most cameras are so far away.

 

Was the coaches consulted with on why they where ejected?

As the thread has gone on and more information is posted, it is looking more like you may be right and I may be wrong about the opportunity for appeal. But, the thread succeeded in getting more information out about the appeals process.

 

So facts are given and they “may” be right? You “may” be wrong?

 

I still question the ejections. I don't think officials should be so quick to eject players, especially in the playoffs. Both of the situations I posted in this thread are questionable ejections.

 

others have posted officials aren’t quick to eject a player, far from it. Your opinion is they were questionable certainly not to be taken as fact.

The case of mayfield LB last year was appealed with video and the appeal was denied. However it was later learned that the player was ejected for a non ejectable offense and it was a mistake. So yes the process needs to be looked at.

others have posted officials aren’t quick to eject a player, far from it. Your opinion is they were questionable certainly not to be taken as fact.

 

Did you ever get more information and change your mind?

 

These two situations indicate the officials were too quick to eject.

So since others have posted that officials aren’t quick to eject then that is fact but several have posted players in these cases shouldn’t have been ejected is just uninformed opinions. Officials are human and make mistakes at all levels but to say kids and coaches need to consider all this while making a play on the field is absurd.

All you have to do is have the head coach send the film to the khsaa and they will review and make a decision. Had a similar situation at John Hardin where a kid was pushed and while falling backwards his arms went up real fast and from the view of the official it looked like a retaliation. Mark brown sent the khsaa film of the play and the ejection was overturned.

Incredibly tough. A few thoughts:

 

1. Heartbreaking for the young man who was ejected from the red team. Having watched him every game this season, him doing anything that would warrant an ejection is highly out of character. Frankly, it would shock me.

 

2. On this stage, in that situation, without an egregious show of aggression, why resort to ejection instead of unsportmanlike conduct/15 yards? I'll agree, I do think the white hat was very nervous and him being miked up clearly had him on edge. He made several penalty call mistakes and the pre penalty conferences with other officials were much longer likely bc he was fretting over making mistakes on the "live" calls. Did the nerves/stage effect the call....maybe? maybe not? I agree that it did however.

 

3. While it was out of character and while I think the stage for the white hat was a bit too big for him, I have to say that I didn't actually have my eyes on the end of the play as whatever happened went down. I've been in these situations where live footage showed everyone that the angel-like player who could have never done anything wrong....did do something very unsportsmanlike that warranted an ejection.

That said, the footage needs to be reviewed by the school and state.

 

If he didn't do anything out of line, it needs to be overturned immediately. Again, I was in the press box, I've seen the young man all season long and never seen anything like that before...so, I'm gonna fall on the side of it was a lousy call by an overwhelmed official.

 

PS For those of you that haven't been the Campbellsville for a game, I highly recommend checking it out next year. Awesome facilities, awesome press box, scenic seeing the baseball field right behind the visitors sideline...quite a fun experience.

 

Go Tigers!

There is an appeal process and it is a valid appeal process. If requested the khsaa reviews all film available as well as interviews involved parties. I have seen several appeals successful. I think this thread is just about misinformation.

 

You are correct there is a process, however in most instances the referees do not ask for the film review. If they do not there is no recourse.