I love Trumps plans and ideas but I think he acts childish at times. Theres always a sideshow with him.

 

Amen Brother!

 

Sometimes President Trump reminds me of some Middle School Boys with his antics.

Sorry about the double post.

Sorry about the double post.

 

It happens to the best of us!

 

And I deleted it for clarity.

Roger Stone, confidant of POTUS, was in contact at least 16 times during the 2016 campaign (he initially said he had no contacts ) with Gucifer who is the hacker who released stolen info from the DNC server. Gucifer is reported to have ties with Russia.

 

 

 

Roger Stone on why "exchange" with DNC hacking suspect Guccifer 2.

Edited March 17, 20179 yr by Clyde

That's just it, I don't know. He sort of helped Clinton then he sort of hurt her. Now he is tangled up with Trump.

 

Ideally he should be totally independent but I wonder if that is even possible at that level of Government.

 

Or maybe he is totally independent. That's the way it looks.

Roger Stone, confidant of POTUS, was in contact at least 16 times during the 2016 campaign (he initially said he had no contacts ). Gucifer is the hacker who released stolen info from the DNC server.

 

Was in contact with who? Gucifer? Who is Gucifer aligned with? Is he one of the hackers the Russians were using?

Lindsey Graham said he is going to get to the bottom of the wiretaps. He said it is time Congress exerts its authority and gets the answers. I think Graham will be happy either way it goes. If it uncovers Obama doing something he shouldn't have, good that the Dems are in the wrong. If it turns out there is no proof of Obama or his administration being involved, good that Trump gets some comeuppance - maybe it will put him on track and get him off this goofy sideshow stuff.

Was in contact with who? Gucifer? Who is Gucifer aligned with? Is he one of the hackers the Russians were using?

 

I edited the post.

Or maybe he is totally independent. That's the way it looks.

 

I sure hope you are right.

Reminds me of the Ned Beatty Speech on the Mountain in Shooter.

 

 

Senator Charles F. Meachum: "There are no sides. There's no Sunnis and Shiites. There's no Democrats and Republicans. There's only HAVES and HAVE-NOTS."

 

"This is a country, where the Secretary of Defense can go on T.V., and tell the American public, oh, that "This is about freedom! It's not about oil!" And nobody questions him, cuz they don't wanna hear the answer, because it's a lie! There are only so many places at the table, Gunnie. Now, are you on the INSIDE, or are you on the OUT?"

 

Kentucky native and Transylvania graduate Ned Beatty may have given the two most honest speeches ever in movies.

 

The other is from Network:

 

American Rhetoric: Movie Speech from Network - Arthur Jensen's Speech to Howard Beale

 

"Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

 

You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

 

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, min/max solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

 

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale."

I sure hope you are right.

 

It certainly seems much, much more likely that the Russian angle is a creation of the previous administation to initiate the gathering of election impacting intel.

 

The Russians did not force people into long voting lines in November. And they are not likely forcing people into lines now. But the lines at the Nashville event this week were all the way around capital hill. THAT did not get reported on.

 

Video:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eooiw4tgxbs

Trump Budget is out this morning.

 

Hits his supporters like Trumpcare is going to.

The Republicans are making the same mistake the Democrats did with health care reform, rushing something out before the flaws are fixed.:ohbrother:

As to the wire tapping or surveillance claims. Obama has a long history of this. Ask Merkel. Ask a few more. Trump is/was considered much more of a enemy that she was and she got it bad. Just saying. This easy to find also and given the previous POTUS track record its really hard for me to see how anyone cannot believe this. Just because some Senator now says there is no evidence? :lol2:

As to the wire tapping or surveillance claims. Obama has a long history of this. Ask Merkel. Ask a few more. Trump is/was considered much more of a enemy that she was and she got it bad. Just saying. This easy to find also and given the previous POTUS track record its really hard for me to see how anyone cannot believe this. Just because some Senator now says there is no evidence? :lol2:

 

You still haven't answered my follow-up questions regarding the shadow govt issue. You brought it up so it seems logical you'd expound on it. Looking forward to it.