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Clinton vs. Trump - Track fivethirtyeight

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No, I support slashing social welfare programs and putting able bodied people back to work. There has never been more working aged people not in the workforce that there is today. Text revenues need to increase by removing barriers to economic development and collecting taxes from a more prosperous citizenry. No country has ever taxed itself to prosperity and this country would not be the first to succeed in doing so.

 

In reality, the debt has reached such a high level that it is very unlikely that politicians could prevent the coming disaster, even if they had the desire to do so. There will always be politicians that will oppose workable solutions to this nation's problems by saying anything to get elected and put themselves in position to enrich their families, friends, and themselves.

 

Bolded is true, which is why find it funny when anybody from either side mentions the debt. Neither are even trying and they haven't in years.

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I was no fan of Carter, but I have never known anybody who accused him of being corrupt. Inept, no doubt. Corrupt, no.

 

I also do not recall any allegations that Bush I was corrupt, unless the charges were leveled by the masters of mud, Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bush enjoyed very high job approval numbers for most of his single term. Allowing Bob Dole to talk him into agreeing to renege on a no new taxes pledge cost him the election, IMO.

 

The Bush family has been tied to the Saudis for generations. I'm going to say they're pretty corrupt.

 

Carter, though, I don't know that he personally was, but I would bet lots of people in his administration were.

I was no fan of Carter, but I have never known anybody who accused him of being corrupt. Inept, no doubt. Corrupt, no.

 

I also do not recall any allegations that Bush I was corrupt, unless the charges were leveled by the masters of mud, Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bush enjoyed very high job approval numbers for most of his single term. Allowing Bob Dole to talk him into agreeing to renege on a no new taxes pledge cost him the election, IMO.

 

Okay.

Bolded is true, which is why find it funny when anybody from either side mentions the debt. Neither are even trying and they haven't in years.

 

Probably snow tomorrow, we agree on something.

Nixon did less than Hillary and resigned in disgrace, she gets to continue to run for POTUS. Society is in the dumpster.

 

'Merica

 

Nixon did less? Need to go back and review the activities of CREEP, the Firing of the Special Prosecutor, CIA in South America, Cambodia, et al. Maybe he did less but it's more Han a meme will tell you.

Obama has defended everything that Clinton has done. I don't know how that qualifies him for a higher position in the pecking order of character.

 

He kind of has to defend her, as without her husband's late intervention and support (along with the disappearance of Romney) ; he likely doesn't win a second term--He owes them!!

Nixon did less? Need to go back and review the activities of CREEP, the Firing of the Special Prosecutor, CIA in South America, Cambodia, et al. Maybe he did less but it's more Han a meme will tell you.

 

Don't go by meme's. I study history.

Don't go by meme's. I study history.

 

Then respond to my points.

My current projection of the vote, subject revision in response to poll results released later today:

 

IMO, the two states that are most likely to determine the final margin for the election are Florida and New Hampshire.

 

Most likely outcome:

 

Hillary: 297 Trump: 241 (Hillary wins Florida but loses New Hampshire)

 

Other, less likely outcomes:

 

Hillary: 301 Trump: 237 (Hillary wins both Florida and New Hampshire)

 

Trump: 270 Hillary: 268 (Hillary loses both Florida and New Hampshire)

 

Hillary: 272 Trump: 266 (Hillary loses Florida but wins New Hampshire)

Most updates today have things tailing away from Trump. At current he is down to 31.5% chance with Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina all currently shaded blue.

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Florida has turned 4 or 5 points in the last day or two.

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North Carolina is still up for grabs.

 

This may the first Presidential election that I can remember where the winner doesn't carry Ohio.

North Carolina is still up for grabs.

 

This may the first Presidential election that I can remember where the winner doesn't carry Ohio.

 

 

Good possibility, papa. I think if she has a wave tomorrow night( I think may happen), she could still take Ohio, but I agree that he's odds on favorite to take the Buckeye State.

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