Unreal.

 

I've never met Coach Siple, but from everything I've ever read on here....first class man & first class coach. You don't exactly find those around every corner.

The state should have told him once his credentials were submitted that a Sports Administration Masters did not meet the requirements of continuing education above your Bachelors Degree.

 

The Masters degree that you attain has to do be within the usable bounds of education within the school. I have taught for 16 years & my Masters is in History & I also have a Rank 1 in School Administration.

 

When I started teaching, you were given 5 years to begin work on your Masters degree & a time limit of 10 years to have completed the degree, I do not think those requirements have changed.

 

If the school system really wanted him to stay on & he is indeed in year 4 of his tenure in Kentucky, he could take 1 class & begin his "Masters Degree" in Kentucky & would technically have 6 more years of teaching/coaching before he had to have it completed.

 

I don't know Coach Siple, have no idea how many years he has been teaching, how close he is to retirement or anything like that, BUT this technically should be an option for him.

The state should have told him once his credentials were submitted that a Sports Administration Masters did not meet the requirements of continuing education above your Bachelors Degree.

 

The Masters degree that you attain has to do be within the usable bounds of education within the school. I have taught for 16 years & my Masters is in History & I also have a Rank 1 in School Administration.

 

When I started teaching, you were given 5 years to begin work on your Masters degree & a time limit of 10 years to have completed the degree, I do not think those requirements have changed.

 

If the school system really wanted him to stay on & he is indeed in year 4 of his tenure in Kentucky, he could take 1 class & begin his "Masters Degree" in Kentucky & would technically have 6 more years of teaching/coaching before he had to have it completed.

 

I don't know Coach Siple, have no idea how many years he has been teaching, how close he is to retirement or anything like that, BUT this technically should be an option for him.

 

If Coach Siple is "qualified" for this course of action then that changes everything. If true, it says Grant County is forcing Coach Siple out.

 

To be continued I suppose...

Not surprised. This happens more frequently than many know. A Master's degree does not necessarily satisfy the Ky requirement for teachers in the public system.

 

If the State of Kentucky doesn't figure this out, we will continue to get what we get in the public system....so many good people that could be teachers but the State education system disallows....

 

It's not just Kentucky. All states have different requirements and what is good for one isn't always good for another state. My wife is a former teacher and was certified and good to go in two states, both of which had different requirements and had her masters degree. When we moved to KY, she basically had to start over again on a third different set of standards. She taught for 3 years on a temp certificate and rather than getting certified in KY, decided to get out of teaching.

It's not just Kentucky. All states have different requirements and what is good for one isn't always good for another state. My wife is a former teacher and was certified and good to go in two states, both of which had different requirements and had her masters degree. When we moved to KY, she basically had to start over again on a third different set of standards. She taught for 3 years on a temp certificate and rather than getting certified in KY, decided to get out of teaching.

 

This absolutely proves my point. Why would the State of Kentucky not grant reciprocity from an accredited institution ? I'll answer that. Because the State subsidized universities that offer the programs and control the teachers in the state want the $$$$ for their programs.

 

It's an educational monopoly that only serves to line the pockets of those that make the rules for the game.....borders on criminal

The state should have told him once his credentials were submitted that a Sports Administration Masters did not meet the requirements of continuing education above your Bachelors Degree.

 

The Masters degree that you attain has to do be within the usable bounds of education within the school. I have taught for 16 years & my Masters is in History & I also have a Rank 1 in School Administration.

 

When I started teaching, you were given 5 years to begin work on your Masters degree & a time limit of 10 years to have completed the degree, I do not think those requirements have changed.

 

If the school system really wanted him to stay on & he is indeed in year 4 of his tenure in Kentucky, he could take 1 class & begin his "Masters Degree" in Kentucky & would technically have 6 more years of teaching/coaching before he had to have it completed.

 

I don't know Coach Siple, have no idea how many years he has been teaching, how close he is to retirement or anything like that, BUT this technically should be an option for him.

 

I do not believe that requiring teachers to obtain a Master's degree does anything for the overall quality of education in any state. A Master's degree can certainly enhance the knowledge level, but if the mindset is that you must obtain an advanced degree beyond your bachelor's to keep your certificate....then we can only expect that the schools in which teacher's teach will perpetuate that mindset and drive more students toward college.

 

Part of the broken system is continuing the fallacy that higher education is the exclusive pathway to a better standard of living....

Makes sense right, Siple can go teach a college level class anywhere he wants, but cant get a teaching certificate in ky.

Why would Aaron Stepp care about Grant Co. He is at Garrard Co. Maybe you misspoke or misunderstood what was being posted. I have not heard anything about Grant or Siple. Spoke to him just the other day after practice and he seemed to be preparing for next season. I do know that Grant got rid of basketball coach' date=' need to hire a new principal and a new AD.[/quote']

 

Let's be clear, Grant didn't "get rid of" the basketball coach. More importantly Siple is a great coach and a better person. Good luck to him as he will land at a better position for him.

I agree with you on your point. If I was allowed, I would have just gotten ASE certified in automotive maintenance & said, "here is my higher degree" :lol:

 

I enjoyed getting my Masters in History & overall several of the things I did in that program I have brought to the classroom, but I also choose that masters since it wasn't a Masters of Secondary Education, Elementary Ed, Sp. Ed, etc....... On the slim chance that at this point I would ever get out of education, a Masters in Education wouldn't be marketable, even less than a Masters in History. (I always wanted to work for a museum)

 

I do not believe that requiring teachers to obtain a Master's degree does anything for the overall quality of education in any state. A Master's degree can certainly enhance the knowledge level, but if the mindset is that you must obtain an advanced degree beyond your bachelor's to keep your certificate....then we can only expect that the schools in which teacher's teach will perpetuate that mindset and drive more students toward college.

 

Part of the broken system is continuing the fallacy that higher education is the exclusive pathway to a better standard of living....

This is where we have arrived as a society in public employment. Paper credentials count for more that qualification, experience or even performance. I am normally a public school advocate, but they really blew it this time.

I don't know Coach Siple and I will take everyone's word he is a very good coach and guy.

 

This happens all the time and it is on the teacher to meet the requirements. It doesn't make any difference whether a person agrees or not, it is their responsibility. It is very unlikely he didn't know and know in an adequate amount of time. If not he could appeal and possibly get an extension. The district can do nothing if the employe does not help themselves. There were numerous times in my time in personnel where we told teachers, principals, central office personnel they were going to have to get the updates, they didn't and we had no choice but to non renew their contract.

 

Usually they were very good employees that just either didn't think it would happen or intended to and just didn't. Don't know the case here, but I have very little doubt he had plenty of time and notice to get it resolved.

Same argument I made several years back with what was the 64 hour college credit rule to be a coach. If (insert name here) formerly of the NBA either didn't attend college & was drafted out of high school or was a 1 & done) was unable to be a coach for my school because he didn't have enough credit hours in college.

 

OK, that sounds logical, there is no way they know anything about playing basketball.:thumb: :lol:

 

 

Makes sense right, Siple can go teach a college level class anywhere he wants, but cant get a teaching certificate in ky.

Grant County is a mess indeed, but guys he had to know this. The state is very clear on this and even sends you and your school board reminders. I feel like he had to know.

This is a shame. Coach Siple is a good coach and a good man.

Does anyone know why the KDE would not recognize his masters degree? I didn't realize there were restrictions on the type of masters degree a teacher is allowed to get.

Maybe Grant Co exhausted all resources and couldn't come out with a solution...however there are a ton of loopholes administrators can use for these types of situations along with appeals. However the administration has to want to do this.