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Stop the madness i.e. Transferring

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What role do the coaches play from the school the player is transferring from? I know of a high school baseball player that is being denied release by his old coach. The kid isn't even good, just an average player at best. There is no district championship possible for either team, let alone a state championship. The coach is just being a jerk. If he can stop this average player from being able to play by not signing a release, why can't the coaches stop the good players?

 

There is no release to sign. School fills out the forms and sends them in. Then it is

Up to Khsa to rule on it. They can appeal or object but no is no such thing as a release.

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What role do the coaches play from the school the player is transferring from? I know of a high school baseball player that is being denied release by his old coach. The kid isn't even good, just an average player at best. There is no district championship possible for either team, let alone a state championship. The coach is just being a jerk. If he can stop this average player from being able to play by not signing a release, why can't the coaches stop the good players?

 

Welcome to the site. Love the username!

Thanks for the info, that's the story the parents are telling. I wonder what the reason is that he can't play. The name just came to me, thanks!

Call it what you want, but it is a "release". There is a box on the transfer form that the school check to make the transfer process a breeze for the kid transferring. If they check the other box (for any reason good or bad), the kid is ineligible and has to appeal.

 

I wonder how many of you on here commenting about the transfer process have actually had kids that have gone through the transfer process.

 

Also, something for everyone to consider while you are wondering why transferring has become so easy. There are a lot of bad coaches and corrupt programs out there. Do you think that some kids get a pass on transferring as long as they keep their mouth shut about wrong doings at the school they are transferring from?

One free transfer? That's about the dumbest idea I've ever heard. That would encourage transferring even more.

There would definitely be a lot of AAU all star teams assembled following summer camps.

Call it what you want, but it is a "release". There is a box on the transfer form that the school check to make the transfer process a breeze for the kid transferring. If they check the other box (for any reason good or bad), the kid is ineligible and has to appeal.

I wonder how many of you on here commenting about the transfer process have actually had kids that have gone through the transfer process.

 

Also, something for everyone to consider while you are wondering why transferring has become so easy. There are a lot of bad coaches and corrupt programs out there. Do you think that some kids get a pass on transferring as long as they keep their mouth shut about wrong doings at the school they are transferring from?

 

I'm glad someone is willing to bring this up. Though I typically don't comment a lot on transfer threads (unless they involve Wiggins), our family has been through the process and we've learned three things: 1) unsurprisingly, certain folks from a kid's former school can make things pretty easy or they can make things pretty rough; 2) regardless of the reason a player may change programs, it certainly seems that the burden of proof rests on the kid and her/his family; 3) the current system -- at least in Kentucky -- makes it difficult for a family to explain how complicated the relationship between "academic reasons" and "athletic reasons" can be.

Call it what you want, but it is a "release". There is a box on the transfer form that the school check to make the transfer process a breeze for the kid transferring. If they check the other box (for any reason good or bad), the kid is ineligible and has to appeal.

 

I wonder how many of you on here commenting about the transfer process have actually had kids that have gone through the transfer process.

 

Also, something for everyone to consider while you are wondering why transferring has become so easy. There are a lot of bad coaches and corrupt programs out there. Do you think that some kids get a pass on transferring as long as they keep their mouth shut about wrong doings at the school they are transferring from?

 

There are boxes to check but it is up to Khsaa to rule.

 

Yes there is an easy box to check if they haven't played varsity. If they have played varsity then it goes to the Khsaa.

My experience with Ohio transfers has been eye opening. I have had several students transfer from my school to Ohio & I never received paperwork on any of them. I called the AD of the new school about the first kid that transferred & asked if I needed to fill out anything for them & they said "No, its an out of state transfer, as long as they provide factual info to the receiving school that they have indeed made a move & can show a water/power bill, etc..... they are ok"

 

It blew my mind honestly since I had to jump through 20 hoops to get a kid cleared from Cali to here..... like he was gonna fly in every morning from there to here or something. :no:

 

 

My question is what are other states doing in regards to transfers? Anyone out there no what Indiana/Ohio does? If you look at football and basketball they produce tons of D1 atheletes.
My experience with Ohio transfers has been eye opening. I have had several students transfer from my school to Ohio & I never received paperwork on any of them. I called the AD of the new school about the first kid that transferred & asked if I needed to fill out anything for them & they said "No, its an out of state transfer, as long as they provide factual info to the receiving school that they have indeed made a move & can show a water/power bill, etc..... they are ok"

 

It blew my mind honestly since I had to jump through 20 hoops to get a kid cleared from Cali to here..... like he was gonna fly in every morning from there to here or something. :no:

 

If you're an out of state transfer into Ohio - just have to document your new residence (with mortgage, lease, bills, etc.) - and then transcripts from the old school will clear all the other things the school needs (academic eligibility, grade level, etc.). Those get submitted to the state - and boom, eligible.

 

As I stated before - if you go to a new school in Ohio - 99% of the time your family has to have moved. Transfers and eligibility are a lot more clear cut when there is a legitimate change of residency involved.

If the KHSAA would take these transfer request a little more serious and investigate it more then I believe more would be hesitant to do so. KHSAA needs to not let it happen as much as it does and if they deny quite a bit of them then things would change. I am not saying some are not legit because they are but it is truly out of hand for both boys and girls.

 

Also for some of you who think that kids are going to get there college looks from high school games IMO you are mistaken it happens more a the AAU level than the high school level. IF a kid plays the 3 high school and the college coaches is looking for him to play the 2 or 1 he is going to want that to come from the AAU team not high school. There are some many kids that are 5 in high school because they are the tallest kids on the team that will play the 3 or 4 in college.

If the parents make a legitimate move, then the player would be allowed to play, no questions asked. But for me to sign off on a guardianship waiver to allow my child to live with their uncle, grandparents, whomever in order to attend another school, should not be allowed.

 

I like this the best. The only exception on guardianship would have to involve, unfortunately, the death of a parent or something of a very serious nature like that.

I think that most, if not all of you, are missing the point about transfers. The KHSSA mission statement contains language that emphasizes participation and enhancing the experience for the student-athlete - nothing about a coach, program, parent or booster. Being true to their word, the KHSAA will favor the student-athlete, no matter how bad it smells sometimes.

I think that most, if not all of you, are missing the point about transfers. The KHSSA mission statement contains language that emphasizes participation and enhancing the experience for the student-athlete - nothing about a coach, program, parent or booster. Being true to their word, the KHSAA will favor the student-athlete, no matter how bad it smells sometimes.

 

And that's what the problem is.

I think that most, if not all of you, are missing the point about transfers. The KHSSA mission statement contains language that emphasizes participation and enhancing the experience for the student-athlete - nothing about a coach, program, parent or booster. Being true to their word, the KHSAA will favor the student-athlete, no matter how bad it smells sometimes.

 

:thumb: Parents get more upset about tranfers than the kids do. It should always be about the kids and no one else. Let them play.

And that's what the problem is.

 

What's the problem, why is it a problem and who has the problem?

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