John Anthony Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I don't understand why we wouldn't be on the side of our strongest friend in the middle east. I'm pro-Israel and not ashamed. It makes economic and military sense to back them. I'm pro Israel as well. I'd go to war with the IDF any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbird Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 In theory yes but when they continue to work towards a nuke and rally 1-2 times a year chanting "death to America, death to Israel," at some point we have to draw a line. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html?_r=0 I've been looking over this deal for weeks now. Explain to me how it gives them a nuke, shouldn't it scale the iranians back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIPTON BASH Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html?_r=0 I've been looking over this deal for weeks now. Explain to me how it gives them a nuke, shouldn't it scale the iranians back? The oversight is a joke . The secret deals that they won't tell congress about makes me even more nervous as well. That is the easiest explanation without getti ng technical. We really got nothing out of the deal , event giving Iran billions of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbird Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The oversight is a joke . The secret deals that they won't tell congress about makes me even more nervous as well. That is the easiest explanation without getti ng technical. We really got nothing out of the deal , event giving Iran billions of dollars. How so? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/sep/08/politifact-sheet-6-things-know-about-iran-nuclear-/ Isn't this a good thing? Being able to inspect and scale back their program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why does Iran hate Isreal and the United States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSHOG62 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Cutting sanctions, putting millions/ billions back into the hands of a leader who has publicly condemned the United States is not a good thing. Unfreezing their foreign bank accounts and cash flow, enabling more money to be put into their nuclear programs, is not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSHOG62 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why does Iran hate Isreal and the United States? Palestinian/Zionist conflict. See Sykes Picot Agreement and The Balfour Declarations. Britain promised both the Palestinian and Zionists rights to the same "homeland" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbird Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Palestinian/Zionist conflict. See Sykes Picot Agreement and The Balfour Declarations. Britain promised both the Palestinian and Zionists rights to the same "homeland" What about us? I always thought it was because we backed Iraq in the Iraq-Iran war and the 1953 Iranian coup d'état. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/31/world/middleeast/simple-guide-nuclear-talks-iran-us.html?_r=0 I've been looking over this deal for weeks now. Explain to me how it gives them a nuke' date=' shouldn't it scale the iranians back?[/quote'] Lifting the UN Arms Embargo allowing them access to more weapons? What about Iran's direct support to Al-Assad which has lead to the biggest humanitarian crisis of our lifetime in Syria? You really think we should take Iran at it's word, that their nuke program will be peaceful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbird Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Lifting the UN Arms Embargo allowing them access to more weapons? What about Iran's direct support to Al-Assad which has lead to the biggest humanitarian crisis of our lifetime in Syria? You really think we should take Iran at it's word, that their nuke program will be peaceful? I don't see why not. Us and Isreal are the ones with the nukes, not them. Isn't a good part of the deal is that if they don't hold up their end the deal is off? Also doesn't nuclaer power generate energy such as electricty? I have no problem with them having that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 What about us? I always thought it was because we backed Iraq in the Iraq-Iran war and the 1953 Iranian coup d'état. People forget the Shah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIPTON BASH Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 How so? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/sep/08/politifact-sheet-6-things-know-about-iran-nuclear-/ Isn't this a good thing? Being able to inspect and scale back their program? Did you actually read the deal? The time frames on inspections , the triggers and who inspects ? Any scale back is in word only right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 And yet another twist.... Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran?s Quds Force leader | Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbird Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Did you actually read the deal? The time frames on inspections , the triggers and who inspects ? Any scale back is in word only right now. Yes, I did. I'm gonna say it right now. I don't care about Isreal and I don't care about Iran. As long as there is no war, I'm fine either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I don't see why not. Us and Isreal are the ones with the nukes' date=' not them. Isn't a good part of the deal is that if they don't hold up their end the deal is off? Also doesn't nuclaer power generate energy such as electricty? I have no problem with them having that.[/quote'] Are we and Israel promising death to any countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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