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All A Debate: 3 Schools Won't Participate Because They Say Private Schools Recruit

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That's your opinion. I disagree.

 

Well considering you don't know him, I'd say you're opinion is without merit

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Well considering you don't know him, I'd say you're opinion is without merit

 

That's fine. If the criteria for having a valid opinion of someone is knowing them then there are lots of meritless opinions floating around on these boards. Just saying.

The issue there was bad, was addressed in formal KHSAA actions. Some would say the punishment was fairly light and even somewhat of a whitewash given the circumstances. You can Goggle up the official specifics if desired.

 

The accusations are serious and they would go well beyond an All-A event given that there is only one single KHSAA tournament bracket for basketball. So bringing up these sort of accusations in this manner is, at best, odd.

 

LCA got fined $13,000 for 3 student athletes and legal fees. Lexington Catholic got fined $31000 for 9 athletes and legal fees.

LCA got fined $13,000 for 3 student athletes and legal fees. Lexington Catholic got fined $31000 for 9 athletes and legal fees.

 

Didn't Rose Hill get into some serious trouble for a litany of sins a few years back?

Didn't Rose Hill get into some serious trouble for a litany of sins a few years back?

 

Oh by all means yes. Rose Hill had major issues. Plus, I was only responding to a comment by someone. The list of public schools reprimanded by the KHSAA is pages long.

The list of public schools reprimanded by the KHSAA is pages long.

 

Without a doubt.

I used to be on a school board for a catholic school and have a hard time seeing this happening. Financial aid was done through a third party company. The family would fill out an application and the third party would recommend/deny financial aid and the amount that should be given. Also, the school budget is approved by the school board. The financials were done by an independant accounting firm that would present the budget to us. I could never see any type of scholarship based on anything but financial need ever being approved.

That's fine. If the criteria for having a valid opinion of someone is knowing them then there are lots of meritless opinions floating around on these boards. Just saying.

 

Isn't that what the internet is based on? Meritless opinions.

I used to be on a school board for a catholic school and have a hard time seeing this happening. Financial aid was done through a third party company. The family would fill out an application and the third party would recommend/deny financial aid and the amount that should be given. Also, the school budget is approved by the school board. The financials were done by an independant accounting firm that would present the budget to us. I could never see any type of scholarship based on anything but financial need ever being approved.

Pretty simple, if someone really wanted it to happen...give the family cash, they put it in the bank and then right a check to the school. Unless, you want to try and have documentation that the student received a scholarship but that can only be up to 25% of the tuition.

Pretty simple, if someone really wanted it to happen...give the family cash, they put it in the bank and then right a check to the school. Unless, you want to try and have documentation that the student received a scholarship but that can only be up to 25% of the tuition.

 

Not as simple as you make it out to be. First, it is a lot of money. Second, in order to keep it secret you would have to make sure that everyone that was offered the illegal help would accept it. No exceptions. Anything else and the scheme would be exposed. Third, the person offering the aid would have to select the recipient without the help of the coaches. Fourth, the student and family would have to go through four years without any complaints about discipline, grades, playing time etc. Can you really believe that NO ONE, EVER would try the blackmail route to improve playing time or a grade or a discipline problem. That blackmail attempt would expose the whole thing to the school administration and it would be over. Sorry, any widespread cheating as you describe would fail in a very short time.

I only read about 1/2 of the coach's complaint, because all I could get from it was, "Wahhh, wah, wahh, wahhh (sniff)... wahh waaahh waaahhhh, wahh, wah (sniff)... we're inferiorrrrrr, wahh wah (sniff, sniff)... we gotta knock you down a notch (pause; sniffle) ...to make ourselves feel betterrrrrrrr (sniff)..."

^^^^ This.

 

Schools and fan bases can put up all the rhetoric they want to either defend or make accusations, but the reality is there are ways that schools WHO ARE ALLOWED TO, to attract students that may if rules were different wouldn't be able to attend or even look at enrolling in certain schools.

On this site you can not use the "R" word, so that is fine, call it what you want whether it is scholarships or Tuition Assistance or whatever. It all comes down to that different school districts have different rules as do private schools vs public schools.

 

It is what it is and because of the disparity in rules and boundaries there will never be a level playing field. The coach chose not to participate in the All A tourney because he didn't feel his team had a fair shot when competing with other schools in the tournament. It's his choice. Right or wrong, there will always be plenty of people standing on both sides of the argument.

 

I agree with most of what you are saying. Some public schools get kids to their programs due to great history of a sport as well as academics. Highlands and Beechwood come to mind. These are not private schools, and I think they offer students outside of the city to attend if they pay tuition (barring over crowding).

 

To the last bold, if they can not compete in the All A why bother playing in the KHSAA at all?

If these public became better academically, socially, and emotionally then the athletic part would follow. Then families wouldn't see the need to send their kids to private schools. You best believe that if Highlands and Beechwood were some how absorbed into their county school districts (I know this would never happen) there would be a much higher rate of kids from Fort Thomas and Fort Mitchell attending private school. Many parents don't see the need to send their kids to private schools if there are really good public schools around. But sadly, for many, that just isn't the case.

If these public became better academically, socially, and emotionally then the athletic part would follow. Then families wouldn't see the need to send their kids to private schools. You best believe that if Highlands and Beechwood were some how absorbed into their county school districts (I know this would never happen) there would be a much higher rate of kids from Fort Thomas and Fort Mitchell attending private school. Many parents don't see the need to send their kids to private schools if there are really good public schools around. But sadly, for many, that just isn't the case.

 

What I'm hearing here is that it's your theory that the problem is with the schools, teachers, etc.?

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