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Interesting that transfers are now being reported by Courier Journal

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I understand that. But nothing stops the Saxophone prodigy from School "A" form transferring and being able to participate when after meeting School "B"'s band director and realizing he is the saxophone whisperer. He transfers and gets first chair and the solo in the holiday show right away. And nothing stops the kid with a 34 ACT score from transferring to the private school in the next town because they offer more college courses that will set him up better for his future major. In fact many tell him he'd be crazy not to do so. Recruiting happens in all school programs whether it's band or basketball. It however, is only viewed as a problem when it's sports. Heck, schools go out of their way to tell everyone how great their academic programs are in order to attract and retain students. Nothing wrong with that at all, and no one bats an eye. When did sports become more important??

Where is this saxophone prodigy?

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Where is this saxophone prodigy?

 

Stuck in your one school district. ha

Why is the transfer rule disregarded in boys basketball, but rigorously enforced in football?

I wouldn't say that is the case at all. I don't think there is any clearly perceived bias from sport to sport when it comes to transfers. Do you have any possible examples or motives?

How many of these gyms are full for a basketball game vs academic meet or band concert?

 

What does that matter?? Does a full gym make basketball more important or different than academic meets or band concerts?? They are all school based activities that are enhance the school experience. Unless of course you are valuing a basketball player (or any athlete) more than a kid in the band.

 

And by the way, there are plenty of basketball (and other HS sports teams) that play in front of small crowds. The size of the crowd or fan base doesn't make a sport or activity any more or less relevant.

Where is this saxophone prodigy?

 

I'm just using the sax player as a possible example. Or are you saying that the scenario (and it doesn't specifically have to be a sax player) I presented doesn't exist??

The finances that school systems have for upkeep, renovation, utilities, uniforms, etc.. is a burden to under-financed schools. Therefore, I'm looking in the near future that the KHSAA to dissolve and only club sports to maintain school facilities at their expense and they will rent gymnasiums from school districts and pickup insurance expenses. With the disappearance of the KHSAA and no one regulating athletics in Kentucky, you lose everything in smaller communities as well as larger populated communities. What happens with Title IX? What happens to community support? Community pride? Academic regulations? This is part of what'll happen if AAU is allowed free access to switch schools.

What does that matter?? Does a full gym make basketball more important or different than academic meets or band concerts?? They are all school based activities that are enhance the school experience. Unless of course you are valuing a basketball player (or any athlete) more than a kid in the band.

 

And by the way, there are plenty of basketball (and other HS sports teams) that play in front of small crowds. The size of the crowd or fan base doesn't make a sport or activity any more or less relevant.

 

My kids have been in the band and on the academic team and i have never paid to enter either. So i would think that money is the differnece why the KHSAA dont care about recruiting for the band or academic team. When they start making money from it the WILL regulate it.

The KHSAA is an athletic association. It's not the KHSB(band)A, or the KHSA(academic)A. So we are comparing apples to anvils. If you can get the stands full from community support for a band competition or an academic meet and charge an admission, maybe you're right. But some of these comparisons are laughable.

My kids have been in the band and on the academic team and i have never paid to enter either. So i would think that money is the differnece why the KHSAA dont care about recruiting for the band or academic team. When they start making money from it the WILL regulate it.

 

Obviously, I know the KHSAA doesn't regulate or govern clubs or other activities. And I'm not saying they should or shouldn't. I really don't care one way or the other. But don't assume that the KHSAA's only purpose is centered around money, or that all sports are a huge moneymaker for schools. Sports can be and are big money for some schools. But for many schools, most sports are break even at best. The band doesn't require paid officials which is one reason you don't see admission fees. Getting back to the thread, my only point is transferring generally isn't considered a problem for academics or any other non sporting activity, but when it comes to sports people freak out and cry foul. Why?? I'm not buying the money argument.

The KHSAA is an athletic association. It's not the KHSB(band)A, or the KHSA(academic)A. So we are comparing apples to anvils. If you can get the stands full from community support for a band competition or an academic meet and charge an admission, maybe you're right. But some of these comparisons are laughable.

 

Agreed about the KHSAA. But the comparison is still fair. All of these things mentioned are activities. No one cries foul when people transfer for the availability/quality of other activities or non-sports reasons. Why are sports elevated above other activities?? Are they more important?? I'm being serious when I ask that question....

 

I don't know whether they are or aren't. And if anyone feels they are that's fine. I just don't see any problem with someone deciding what the best situation is for their kids...whether it's academics, sports or whatever. Transfers just don't bother me that much, especially if they are done within whatever rules are out there. And I really don't understand why the rules are different for sports as opposed to other activities.

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I'm going to keep my mouth shut on this topic.

Seriously, I can't believe anyone is asking why/how sports are different than band or academics.

 

As someone said it's apples to anvils.

Boone County. Not an open enrollment district. HS' in Boone are Boone, Ryle, Cooper, Conner, Walton. Need to have residence in the designated district to attend the school (Walton is Independant so they'll take out of district kids). If I have that wrong, someone let me know.

Obviously, I know the KHSAA doesn't regulate or govern clubs or other activities. And I'm not saying they should or shouldn't. I really don't care one way or the other. But don't assume that the KHSAA's only purpose is centered around money, or that all sports are a huge moneymaker for schools. Sports can be and are big money for some schools. But for many schools, most sports are break even at best. The band doesn't require paid officials which is one reason you don't see admission fees. Getting back to the thread, my only point is transferring generally isn't considered a problem for academics or any other non sporting activity, but when it comes to sports people freak out and cry foul. Why?? I'm not buying the money argument.

 

What it if it is that simple? Have you taken some time to review the financial reports from the region tournaments in recent years (info is posted on khsaa.org on the basketball page). I have. It's some interesting reading.

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