All of this will eventually lead to club teams in the next 10 to 15 years.

This is crazy. Do you know how hard it is for a non athlete to transfer schools? The go to the front of the line cuz you can play basketball line of thinking needs to stop. Life awaits- it's real and sometimes- most times- it's not so easy.

Coaches that have kids transfer must look in the mirror at themselves. I dont know anyone involved in this topic. But I see coaches get upset every day about kids leaving to go to other schools. If you can't keep a kid in your own program then you have to look at what you are doing. You may be doing everything right and the kid just wants something different for themselves other than what you are providing.

 

Bottom line if you lose a kid - check what your doing first.

 

Know what you are saying, and I agree to a point, but there's also poaching. Some of the tactics of it don't serve anyone but the coach(es) doing it in the long run either.

 

It's one thing for a kid and their parents to come to you. It's another thing to come in and take a talent that someone else has developed, especially if they are using nefarious means. An example of this would be a young star player who is very talented who plays for an "old school" coach who is big on discipline, grades, all that. Kid gets punished and starts to get unhappy. It seems as though today's game is much more likely to reveal situations where coaches are handcuffed because punishing a kid too harshly is less likely to improve whatever is going on and more likely to cause them to transfer out, at least compared to years past.

 

Feelers from other programs swoop in and play on the discontent, to sow seeds of doubt into the player's and parent's minds, etc. to cause a disconnect between them and the teams/coaches, I don't think those are right at all. It's definitely a dirty game, but I know of situations where a talented player has been frustrated or even talked about quitting and other schools get wind of it and go after them that much harder. "Coach X at School Y isn't giving you enough shots? I know I'd give you those shots if I was coaching you".

 

Things sound really good when they are recruiting a player, but the reality of the situation is that often times, people are saying anything to get a kid to come to them and then things wind up being different once they are actually there. At that point, the kid is kind of stuck because their old school might not want them back and moving to yet another school opens up a new (or the same) can of worms and is more likely to look like school shopping.

 

No real good answer, but I'm not a fan the tactics of poaching, especially when it's used as a means of circumventing discipline because in the long run, the kids aren't the ones who benefit-- they are the ones being played.

This is crazy. Do you know how hard it is for a non athlete to transfer schools? The go to the front of the line cuz you can play basketball line of thinking needs to stop. Life awaits- it's real and sometimes- most times- it's not so easy.

That's on the school and no one else. I know tons of non-athletes who transfer easily. I guess location is key. Kind of like in real estate. Location, location, location.

This is crazy. Do you know how hard it is for a non athlete to transfer schools? The go to the front of the line cuz you can play basketball line of thinking needs to stop. Life awaits- it's real and sometimes- most times- it's not so easy.

I don't know where you live but non-athletes here can go anywhere they want in an open enrollment district.

This is crazy. Do you know how hard it is for a non athlete to transfer schools? The go to the front of the line cuz you can play basketball line of thinking needs to stop. Life awaits- it's real and sometimes- most times- it's not so easy.

Non athletes switch schools too, with little trouble in open enrollment districts or when switching from a public to a private (or vice versa). If you live in the school district, I don't see of any way they could prevent you from attending the school. And in those cases , the non athlete doesnt have to go through applying to the KHSAA to be able to participate in their activity of choice. The star trumpet player gets in and gets to play right away.

 

I just don't know why sports are treated differently than other activities. I see no issue with a parent exploring and pursuing what may be a better situation for their child. If kids like the program down the road better, and consistently leave yours, then fix your program. Whether it's basketball, band or tiddlywinks.

I live in a world where you go to one high school. In your district. Dinosaur here

I live in a world where you go to one high school. In your district. Dinosaur here

I live in a world where I will do what is best for my kids. In a perfect world my kids would stay at one high school and graduate from there. It doesn't always work that way and sometimes hard decisions have to be made. I don't begrudge anyone in that predicament or the choices that they may make.

I live in a world where you go to one high school. In your district. Dinosaur here

 

The Griffstasaurus.

Know what you are saying, and I agree to a point, but there's also poaching. Some of the tactics of it don't serve anyone but the coach(es) doing it in the long run either.

 

It's one thing for a kid and their parents to come to you. It's another thing to come in and take a talent that someone else has developed, especially if they are using nefarious means. An example of this would be a young star player who is very talented who plays for an "old school" coach who is big on discipline, grades, all that. Kid gets punished and starts to get unhappy. It seems as though today's game is much more likely to reveal situations where coaches are handcuffed because punishing a kid too harshly is less likely to improve whatever is going on and more likely to cause them to transfer out, at least compared to years past.

 

Feelers from other programs swoop in and play on the discontent, to sow seeds of doubt into the player's and parent's minds, etc. to cause a disconnect between them and the teams/coaches, I don't think those are right at all. It's definitely a dirty game, but I know of situations where a talented player has been frustrated or even talked about quitting and other schools get wind of it and go after them that much harder. "Coach X at School Y isn't giving you enough shots? I know I'd give you those shots if I was coaching you".

 

Things sound really good when they are recruiting a player, but the reality of the situation is that often times, people are saying anything to get a kid to come to them and then things wind up being different once they are actually there. At that point, the kid is kind of stuck because their old school might not want them back and moving to yet another school opens up a new (or the same) can of worms and is more likely to look like school shopping.

 

No real good answer, but I'm not a fan the tactics of poaching, especially when it's used as a means of circumventing discipline because in the long run, the kids aren't the ones who benefit-- they are the ones being played.

 

 

Everthing you said happens, parent sell house & buy a place in that district kids get legal from KHSAA its that easy.

I live in a world where you go to one high school. In your district. Dinosaur here

 

But... But... School Choice!

I live in a world where you go to one high school. In your district. Dinosaur here

 

I live in a world (or at least a county) where there are 3 public school options (all in the same district), and 4 private schools all within 7 or 8 miles, all of which my kids can attend with no major hassles.....unless I want to play sports. Why do sports have to be different??

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I live in a world (or at least a county) where there are 3 public school options (all in the same district), and 4 private schools all within 7 or 8 miles, all of which I can attend with no major hassles.....unless I want to play sports. Why do sports have to be different??

 

It called recruiting. KHSAA frowns on this kind of behavior, buy a house sell your old one and its done.

Or there could be a rule like Ohio were you are allowed to transfer one time while in high school.

It called recruiting. KHSAA frowns on this kind of behavior, buy a house sell your old one and it done.

Or there could be a rule like Ohio were you are allowed to transfer one time school.

 

I understand that. But nothing stops the Saxophone prodigy from School "A" form transferring and being able to participate when after meeting School "B"'s band director and realizing he is the saxophone whisperer. He transfers and gets first chair and the solo in the holiday show right away. And nothing stops the kid with a 34 ACT score from transferring to the private school in the next town because they offer more college courses that will set him up better for his future major. In fact many tell him he'd be crazy not to do so. Recruiting happens in all school programs whether it's band or basketball. It however, is only viewed as a problem when it's sports. Heck, schools go out of their way to tell everyone how great their academic programs are in order to attract and retain students. Nothing wrong with that at all, and no one bats an eye. When did sports become more important??

How many of these gyms are full for a basketball game vs academic meet or band concert?