What would be the impact of this? You tell schools to choose between competing in the state tournament or the All A. If you choose to compete in the All A, you are not allowed to play in the state tournament. If you choose the state tournament, then you are not allowed to compete in the All A. Give the schools the choice on what level they want to compete.

 

That idea is purely speculation and for discussion here. It will never happen because the state will not allow it.

What would be the impact of this? You tell schools to choose between competing in the state tournament or the All A. If you choose to compete in the All A, you are not allowed to play in the state tournament. If you choose the state tournament, then you are not allowed to compete in the All A. Give the schools the choice on what level they want to compete.

 

That idea is purely speculation and for discussion here. It will never happen because the state will not allow it.

 

My guess from the 9th, NCC and HC would have definitely chosen to play in the KHSAA. I would think St Henry too, but maybe not.

The All A will always be dominated by the bigger Class A schools and private schools. It has never represented what it was intended to represent. Even if you limit the size, private schools will dominate but lets face it a public school with 300 students is not the same as a private school with 300 or it shouldn't be if they are doing it right.]I think it falls to the school, as a Northern Kentucky boy, I disliked them but I respected Highlands/Cov. Cath for playing up in football. They had the enrollment to play lower but knew they had the talent to compete at a higher level.

 

I totally agree with a prior post, bringing up the regional dominance of private schools like Brossart, New Cath., and St. Henry. In the 11th, I believe only 4 years have been won by someone other than Lex Cath, Lex. Christian ( 14 years in a row), Sayre.

 

It would be interesting if private schools were not allowed to attend, well at least the ones that hide behind their enrollment.

All-A schools already have a choice - playing in the All-A is optional. So why do schools like NCC, Holy Cross, Brossart, and Owensboro Catholic choose to play in it? What is the relationship between the tourney and these schools? Or, asked a different way, what would happen to the tourney if those schools chose not to play in it?

 

And on a different note, I invite everyone to explore the (now closed for unknown reasons) Boys Basketball thread about mostly public schools rumored to be boycotting the All-A. I can definitely see small public schools boycotting the All-A if they have to go up against the KHSAA State Champ. Or even the Regional Champ.

Hide behind their enrollment really?

 

What a lot of you are proposing is ridiculous, you might as well call us the NCAA Tournament who picks and chooses who makes and who doesn't this is High School remember. If you lesson the field then it will be someone else who dominates and then you will get on here and want that changed to. IF your purpose is to do away with the ALL A altogether just say and stop dancing around, to many try to be politically correct just say it, but if you really read closely to some of these replies or comments in so many words they aren't saying what they relly want to say.

All-A schools already have a choice - playing in the All-A is optional. So why do schools like NCC, Holy Cross, Brossart, and Owensboro Catholic choose to play in it? What is the relationship between the tourney and these schools? Or, asked a different way, what would happen to the tourney if those schools chose not to play in it?

 

And on a different note, I invite everyone to explore the (now closed for unknown reasons) Boys Basketball thread about mostly public schools rumored to be boycotting the All-A. I can definitely see small public schools boycotting the All-A if they have to go up against the KHSAA State Champ. Or even the Regional Champ.

 

Then let them boycott, what a joke.

If Kentucky ever decided to go to classes (Heavens, I hope they never do), then breaking down the enrollment cutoffs so they are a lot smaller would make sense. But they don't have classes, so the All A Classic (not affiliated at all with the KHSAA end of season tournaments) is fine as it is. You already are limiting it to the bottom third of schools enrollment-wise pretty much, and most seem to love how it is run. You are always going to have a minority who are not happy and want to change things, no matter what topic you are discussing. It's great as it is. It's just some folks have a hard time accepting they are not in control.

 

You keep saying this is a minority, but don't have a response when it is brought up that that might not be the case.

Then let them boycott, what a joke.

 

Not a joke to them. If the State Champ is also going to be in the All-A, then what's the point of having the All-A?

You keep saying this is a minority, but don't have a response when it is brought up that that might not be the case.

 

How is it not the case? I don't see many teams declining to play in the All-A. Sure there isn't 100% of fans/players/coaches/administrators that love everything about the All-A but there isn't 100% of that group that agree on anything.

 

You will find more fans/players/coaches/administrators that have a gripe with the way the KHSAA runs Volleyball, Soccer and yes Basketball.

All-A schools already have a choice - playing in the All-A is optional. So why do schools like NCC, Holy Cross, Brossart, and Owensboro Catholic choose to play in it? What is the relationship between the tourney and these schools? Or, asked a different way, what would happen to the tourney if those schools chose not to play in it?

 

And on a different note, I invite everyone to explore the (now closed for unknown reasons) Boys Basketball thread about mostly public schools rumored to be boycotting the All-A. I can definitely see small public schools boycotting the All-A if they have to go up against the KHSAA State Champ. Or even the Regional Champ.

 

Haven't more Public schools had success in both the All-A and the Sweet 16 than Private schools? Especially on the Girls side? Teams like Clinton Co and Jackson Co? And didn't Shelby Valley do it on the Boys side? How could that happen if the public schools are at such a disadvantage they need to think of boycotting?

BTW Holy Cross was 8-7 in the All-A before this year.

 

Girls Schools with double digit wins:

 

NCC 28-11

Lou HC 20-16

Jackson Co 11-2

Bishop Brossart 17-8

Lex Christian 23-11

Clinton Co 16-5

O-Cath 15-7

Monroe Co 13-3

Somerset 10-9

On the Boys side: thru 2014

 

University Heights 47-11

Somerset 14-15

NCC 23-9

Hazard 15-11

Harlan 15-7

Lex Cath 15-6

Caverna 11-6

Bishop Brossart 13-11

Bardstown 17-6

 

In case you were wondering Lex Christian is 6-10 and Lou Holy Cross is 2-10.

EVERYONE keeps talking about "What it was intended to be". Please post the Mission Statement from 1990 or whenever the All"A" started that said "This tourney is only for small schools that have no chance of ever competing at a statewide level"

 

The All "A" gives EXACTLY 1 Championship out for each sport, it's not a participation ribbon where 10-20-50 schools are getting banners. ONE Team in each sport is named "All A Champion".

 

MOST of the people that seem to be bothered by it are those from schools that DO NOT compete in it. People from larger schools being upset about the All A makes as much sense as Atheist being upset that others believe in God. Why are you so concerned about what others do?

 

NO ONE considers the All A Champion the State Champion, even though those hating on the All A can't seem to figure that out. They act like the All A in some way cheapens the State Champions, when IMO it has ZERO impact.

EVERYONE keeps talking about "What it was intended to be". Please post the Mission Statement from 1990 or whenever the All"A" started that said "This tourney is only for small schools that have no chance of ever competing at a statewide level"

 

The All "A" gives EXACTLY 1 Championship out for each sport, it's not a participation ribbon where 10-20-50 schools are getting banners. ONE Team in each sport is named "All A Champion".

 

MOST of the people that seem to be bothered by it are those from schools that DO NOT compete in it. People from larger schools being upset about the All A makes as much sense as Atheist being upset that others believe in God. Why are you so concerned about what others do?

 

NO ONE considers the All A Champion the State Champion, even though those hating on the All A can't seem to figure that out. They act like the All A in some way cheapens the State Champions, when IMO it has ZERO impact.

 

Amen! Sums it up perfectly.

Hide behind their enrollment really?

 

What a lot of you are proposing is ridiculous, you might as well call us the NCAA Tournament who picks and chooses who makes and who doesn't this is High School remember. If you lesson the field then it will be someone else who dominates and then you will get on here and want that changed to. IF your purpose is to do away with the ALL A altogether just say and stop dancing around, to many try to be politically correct just say it, but if you really read closely to some of these replies or comments in so many words they aren't saying what they relly want to say.

 

Again, this is another response that hit the nail on the head. :clap: