Read again, my man. I didn't say " I saw." People on here referred to it in general and I talked to people who where there.

That's what I said,,,you were going on second hand info,,the same as Cityboy..

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by True blue (and gold)

That's what I said,,,you were going on second hand info,,the same as Cityboy..

 

I'll wait then for someone to dispute that the CCH staff stood up and stopped the "overrated" chant.

Well here's my one and only attempt to right the ship......

 

 

CovCath is winning these games on the defensive end. Holding good offensive teams to less than 50 points is getting it done.

 

Holmes is not going to beat good teams with JB going 0/7 from distance. He is 1/18 from 3 point land in their last 2 losses. I suspect he will get back on track next week.

 

Not sure what sort of challenge Hughes brings for CovCath today, but the game with Wilmington next week should be a good one.

Well here's my one and only attempt to right the ship......

 

 

CovCath is winning these games on the defensive end. Holding good offensive teams to less than 50 points is getting it done.

 

Holmes is not going to beat good teams with JB going 0/7 from distance. He is 1/18 from 3 point land in their last 2 losses. I suspect he will get back on track next week.

 

Not sure what sort of challenge Hughes brings for CovCath today, but the game with Wilmington next week should be a good one.

 

I may be in the Wilmington area on Monday for work. May have to stick around and check out the Cumberland brothers.

 

You are right about how CCH wins. Playing extremely hard D and being in great shape.

Didn't one of the CCH kids get a T in the NCC game for talking? You don't see that very often. That gives some credibility to those who claim CCH is crossing the line. I am not a fan of innuendo and guessing but if CCH is doing it and getting T's for it, then it is an issue that will be brought up.

Didn't one of the CCH kids get a T in the NCC game for talking? You don't see that very often. That gives some credibility to those who claim CCH is crossing the line. I am not a fan of innuendo and guessing but if CCH is doing it and getting T's for it, then it is an issue that will be brought up.

 

So we've now jumped to getting ONE T by a single player means it's possible that the CCH coaching staff is giving all of the players specific cursing phrases to its players to use on the opponents?

So we've now jumped to getting ONE T by a single player means it's possible that the CCH coaching staff is giving all of the players specific cursing phrases to its players to use on the opponents?

 

I am just saying that is proof that it has happened. If it happens again, this stuff will start to stick.

The game turned out to be way more lame than what we had hoped for, or was advertised, and so now has this thread.

Did Coach L behave himself tonight or was he is "rage against the machine" mode?

 

Both staffs conducted themselves with the utmost professionalism. Of course this is hearsay from me so disregard it if you like.

In general it was an ugly game. It didn't seem to have the emotion and energy that this game normally brings, it was just a dull game. Maybe the Conner/Ryle marathon snoozer had something to do with it.

I don't think either team played very well and when they did, they both seemed to happen together.

I didn't notice a lot of yapping either way, the only thing out of the norm that I saw was Schuh's chuck of the Holmes kid from behind during a dead ball. There was a double foul called later, but I didn't see what precipitated it.

In regards to the CCH coaches killing the "overrated" chant by the students, no one on the bench stood up and quelled the cheer and I was sitting near the CovCath bench. On the flip side, who cares what they cheer. They are kids. Anyone with knowledge knows that Bolden is a D1 player and so be it and it just makes them look silly. I do believe there was one chant regarding bull poop, but may be wrong, but in general their cheers are kids just being kids.

As for the game, Bolden didn't shoot very well against their zone and only forced a couple of shots. Someone mentioned he had 8 turnovers, but that does seem high. He has not really shot the ball well lately, but is a streaky shooter. I thought Arnold played well for Holmes and was really solid on defense. I thought Moore off the bench showed some promise and that will help going forward.

McClendon played well in spurts and really dogged Theobald most of the night. I thought his ball pressure really created some issues for CovCath in the halfcourt.

Last point for Holmes is that Mullins has to look to pass more. He tends to overdribble and doesn't find open shooters on drives.

Schuh was in foul trouble, but that is the norm for him, isn't it? Romes was solid as usual, grabbing rebounds, keeping balls alive, making the extra pass.

I have no idea about the reputation that CovCath is getting and it is probably a little overblown, but what they do get away with and its a credit to them because it hasn't been called in games I have seen them play and that is being allowed to use their hands and hold off of the ball.

They have had some success with their face-guarding and in regards last night Flood was allowed to reach out and grab Bolden when he would work from the baseline out to the top. I have no problems with putting an arm bar on a player, especially in the post or stepping up to bump a cutter with your chest. By allowing teams the ability to reach out and hold grab and stick arms in the way through screens is a foul. It takes away from the freedom of movement of the offense.

If I'm standing on baseline and I look to make a move to the top and the defender has both his arms around me as I make a move and grabs me with a hand or impedes my path, it is simply a foul. It is a hold.

I understand that their is body checking and the sort in the paint and some hacking but on the perimeter and going through screens, when an arm/hand is outstretched on a body, it is and should be called a foul.

In general, I think this is what most of the coaches complain about in regards to freedom of movement. Similar to the hand check on defense. Use of a forearm is and can be legal, but to allow one or two hands on an offensive body, the defender can control movement of a player.

Off of my soapbox.

I believe the district is at Holmes this year, isn't it and if so it should probably be a better environment?

I may be in the Wilmington area on Monday for work. May have to stick around and check out the Cumberland brothers.

 

You are right about how CCH wins. Playing extremely hard D and being in great shape.

 

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To venture back to the positive side of things, anyone take note of the full court pass Bolden threw to a streaking teammate near the end of the first half? Simply amazing!

I'll wait then for someone to dispute that the CCH staff stood up and stopped the "overrated" chant.

 

I was at the game. The CovCath cheering section did the "over-rated" chant at Beetle at least 3 different times. So, I'm not sure how the CovCath staff "stopped it."

but what they do get away with and its a credit to them because it hasn't been called in games I have seen them play and that is being allowed to use their hands and hold off of the ball.

They have had some success with their face-guarding and in regards last night Flood was allowed to reach out and grab Bolden when he would work from the baseline out to the top. I have no problems with putting an arm bar on a player, especially in the post or stepping up to bump a cutter with your chest. By allowing teams the ability to reach out and hold grab and stick arms in the way through screens is a foul. It takes away from the freedom of movement of the hold the offense.

Either this isn't as bad, or as frequent as you make it seem, or they let both teams play this way.... OR... The officials had money on CCH for the win. Which, I'm sure most CCH haters believe is completely possible. Woww.

 

As for a bunch of fans shouting "ooovvveeerrraaaatttteeedddd"... That's nitpicking CCH. Every gym I have EVER been in has the opposing fans shouting something. And, most of the time it's far worse than that.

 

As for Bolden and being D1... He'll have a chance to prove his doubter wrong next year. Let his gamedo the talking.

Edited January 25, 201511 yr by True blue (and gold)
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Most of these kids either play summer ball together or on AAU teams together. So if they are talking it is done by a limited few. I have met many of the Crazies after games at different location when I'm out and they all have been very respectful. I talk to some at a gas station last night they were still amped up but still were respectful even knowing that I was a Bulldog fan. Love or hate them they are number 1 when it comes to school spirit and maybe other school should take notes.