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The Coach or The Players

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Head coaches are falling everywhere. Not meeting expectations will get you fired, even if your team has winning records. Here is the question.

 

What determines whether a team reaches its goals - the head coach or the players?

 

How big a difference can a head coach make?

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Head coaches are falling everywhere. Not meeting expectations will get you fired, even if your team has winning records. Here is the question.

 

What determines whether a team reaches its goals - the head coach or the players?

 

How big a difference can a head coach make?

 

85% Player. 15% Coach

What determines whether a team reaches its goals - the head coach or the players?

 

How big a difference can a head coach make?

 

At the high school level, the head coach is at least 66% of the equation. From getting/keeping the best athletes in the school in the program, off season conditioning, managing expectation levels, managing playing time, organizing practices, establishing a team's identity and finally, actual X's and O's.

The head coach alone? Only about 15%

 

The entire support staff? 50%

 

They train the players, do the research on opponents, call the plays, maintain the field/equipment, etc. I would also include the parents as part of the 'support staff'.

Head coaches are falling everywhere. Not meeting expectations will get you fired, even if your team has winning records. Here is the question.

 

What determines whether a team reaches its goals - the head coach or the players?

 

How big a difference can a head coach make?

 

A head coach can make a huge difference, but without the players the greatest head coach will never win anything.

There is a reason coaches like Nick Saban and others don't stay at the Toledo's (his first HC gig) very long.

A great head coach won't win without talent. Sure, he might pull an upset or two here or there, but he won't have a "winning" program without some horses. A bad head coach can win with talent. Will probably lose games he shouldn't along the way and not beat anyone they weren't expected to in the first place, but he can have a "winning" program in spite of his shortcomings if the talent is there.

 

So, what's the most important? Well, if you buy in to what I have stated above, then a coach needs the talent there to mold and work with. Secondary to that, but I would say no less important, is to have a good coach that will use that talent in the most efficient and capable manner.

 

Which would I rather have? Well, since we are talking high school football here and schools pretty much have to play with what they got, give me the great coach. That way, whatever talent the school does have, be it bad, middling or good, I know he will get the most out of it, and no one is left wondering "what if".

I've said this once on here...it's more than both. It's the head coach, the assistants, the AD, the administration, the parents and the community. They all have to buy in to the head coaches ideas and plan. If these factors are not all in alignment it doesn't matter what the head football coach does. I've seen and experiences this first hand and I understand that it takes a lot to make a program successful...all these resignings and firings this year is due to what I mentioned above not being on the same page. The HFC usually ends being the fall guy. Just my 2 cents.

Jimmy and Joe's over X's and O's every time. :thumb:

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I've said this once on here...it's more than both. It's the head coach, the assistants, the AD, the administration, the parents and the community. They all have to buy in to the head coaches ideas and plan. If these factors are not all in alignment it doesn't matter what the head football coach does. I've seen and experiences this first hand and I understand that it takes a lot to make a program successful...all these resignings and firings this year is due to what I mentioned above not being on the same page. The HFC usually ends being the fall guy. Just my 2 cents.

 

The majority of the items in bold are items a really good head coach can have an impact on - AD and administration being the exceptions.

 

As others have said, I feel a good head coach will win almost anywhere but the best head coach out there cannot win a championship without the players.

 

That being said, if a team doesn't win a championship is it ever the head coaches fault? Does the team with most talented players win the title regardless of the head coach?

The majority of the items in bold are items a really good head coach can have an impact on - AD and administration being the exceptions.
Not always...there are plenty of situations across this state that it doesn't matter who the head coach is they will not be successful due to the one or more of the stake holders that do not buy in. The answer to your original question lies in what I mentioned before...it takes all of them to win a championship at least to be in position to win a championship.

The mindset in today's world:Players win games. Coaches lose games.

Players are the difference makers.......good coaches can improve a program to a small degree.....but if you don't have talent, coaches are limited in the success they can have.

Give me a good coach & a set of Lights to play under. :sarcastic:

Give me a good coaches & a set of Lights to play under. :sarcastic:

 

Fixed.

 

Football requires a quality staff. Otherwise I totally agree.

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