December 24, 201411 yr Should everyone in attendance also lose their job regardless of where they work, or just the police officers? If your at a BAR Association political fundraiser and some disgusting things are said about the opponent and you don't jump and run out of the building immediately should you be dis-barred? I didn't say anyone should lose their jobs, there's more ways of discipling than that, but if someone is there encouraging him on, then yea, they are probably going to be a liability on the police force, just IMO. And usually at a Bar Association event people have way more sense than that because they know what can happen when someone has a camera phone. People also know the kind of damage that can be done to their careers if they back a politician who goes all nuts and they find themselves guilty by association. It's a risk you take when you go out in public and throw yourself out there like that, so you have to be wise about it. I'm not saying everyone there should be in trouble or anything like that. There was at least one person there who was disgusted enough to film it and turn the singer in, and I'm sure they probably risked a lot of potential backlash for doing so, but still did it anyway.
December 24, 201411 yr The guy who sang this song should be publicly humiliated for the disgusting racist he is. My only point was I want to know all the facts surrounding the event before I describe everyone in attendance. The example I give is I grew up listening to hip hop and hating country music. A friend in college took me to a country concert even though I knew I'd be miserable he convinced me by the "talent" at the country concerts. Out of no where one of the opening acts started playing a racist song . I was shocked and disgusted but I had no prior knowledge of who this chump was. I don't feel I should be judged because a college peer convinced me to go on a "talent" search. I understand your point, but I think there's a difference when you work in the public sector that you just have to be aware of, especially when it's going to a fundraising event that seems to be primarily for retired police officers and that's the common thread between most everyone in attendance. Around half of the crowd being involved in police activity probably means one retiree/active and their spouse or a kid. Not really like two college kids going to a concert. If someone was there in attendance and felt like you did at the concert, I don't think anyone is calling for them to be punished.
December 24, 201411 yr Just curious what the song was or who the artist was? Act was a nobody but the song was from someone famous. Don't ask me details I don't know much about country music.
December 24, 201411 yr Act was a nobody but the song was from someone famous. Don't ask me details I don't know much about country music. A redeeming quality.
December 24, 201411 yr I didn't say anyone should lose their jobs, there's more ways of discipling than that, but if someone is there encouraging him on, then yea, they are probably going to be a liability on the police force, just IMO. And usually at a Bar Association event people have way more sense than that because they know what can happen when someone has a camera phone. People also know the kind of damage that can be done to their careers if they back a politician who goes all nuts and they find themselves guilty by association. It's a risk you take when you go out in public and throw yourself out there like that, so you have to be wise about it. I'm not saying everyone there should be in trouble or anything like that. There was at least one person there who was disgusted enough to film it and turn the singer in, and I'm sure they probably risked a lot of potential backlash for doing so, but still did it anyway. Didn't realize attorneys were TOO smart to do something stupid. Need to remember this in the future. :lol2: But your kidding yourself if you don't think similar things aren't said behind closed doors or in closed parties where they "think" they are talking to assumed like-minded people...there ARE idiots in all professions!
December 24, 201411 yr Didn't realize attorneys were TOO smart to do something stupid. Need to remember this in the future. :lol2: But your kidding yourself if you don't think similar things aren't said behind closed doors or in closed parties where they "think" they are talking to assumed like-minded people...there ARE idiots in all professions! I think I said, "usually at a Bar Association event people have way more sense than that because they know what can happen when someone has a camera phone". Apparently there are some professions who should take note of that. I can tell you that someone who pulled something like this at an event would definitely be dealt with swiftly and accordingly, and I doubt the results would be pretty. Between that and, I don't know, having whoever organizes the entertainment they hire check on a set list and/or use better judgment on what they allow on the set list seems like it'd be a good start here. I didn't say anything about it not happening and wouldn't deny the second part of your statement, I just think there's a huge difference in being dumb enough to be so overt about it during a time of racial tension and when your city has it's own problems with the Ezell Ford cloud hanging over your department.
December 24, 201411 yr I can believe someone would come up with a parody song like that...people can be insensitive and mean spirited, nothing new there. However, to then turn around and perform it, and to have it performed in front of a room full of police or former police officers is another level of stupid and mean spirited and insensitive. Why? What purpose does it serve? I also believe that many if not most in the audience may not have known about the song beforehand, but I guarantee someone associated with the party knew it was going to be sung and they should be ashamed.
December 24, 201411 yr I can believe someone would come up with a parody song like that...people can be insensitive and mean spirited, nothing new there. However, to then turn around and perform it, and to have it performed in front of a room full of police or former police officers is another level of stupid and mean spirited and insensitive. Why? What purpose does it serve? I also believe that many if not most in the audience may not have known about the song beforehand, but I guarantee someone associated with the party knew it was going to be sung and they should be ashamed. Exactly. If I'm the event organizer and I didn't know he was going to do that and he started into it, I walk up and pull the plug on his mic. I actually saw that happen at a law school student event (not even a Bar Association one, where that would have been a death sentence) because a kid thought it'd be funny to slip in some sexually suggestive lyrics to get some laughs during a fund raiser for a private group. Event organizer walked up to the stage and told him he was finished and no longer welcome to perform. I think it's ridiculous that the guy who orchestrates it gives the, "this is America..." line when first asked about it, but now lawyers up and is basically getting a pass on it because he's apologizing now (and probably falling on the sword for others by not naming names and not spreading the heat because he knows he's cooked regardless).
December 24, 201411 yr So now any joke made in SNL that could be about a national news incident should be investigated? All it was was a funny song about a famous incident period. Who really cares? Wasn't racist, didn't hear anything about race in the lyrics. It may not have been in the best taste but then there are many comedians that I don't think are funny or may cross the line of tasteful yet they aren't being investigated. Grow a thicker skin people. It was just a song period. A parody song at that. maybe I've grown so tired of the entire thing Ive become numb of all this garbage about Michael Brown etc.
December 24, 201411 yr Author So now any joke made in SNL that could be about a national news incident should be investigated? All it was was a funny song about a famous incident period. Who really cares? Wasn't racist' date=' didn't hear anything about race in the lyrics. It may not have been in the best taste but then there are many comedians that I don't think are funny or may cross the line of tasteful yet they aren't being investigated. Griw ow a thicker skin people. It was just a song period. A parody song at that.[/quote'] The messenger matters. Always. And it was not a funny song.
December 25, 201411 yr The messenger matters. Always. And it was not a funny song. Funny or not all depends on individual taste. What isn't funny to you apparently was funny to the one who wrote the song.
December 25, 201411 yr Funny or not all depends on individual taste. What isn't funny to you apparently was funny to the one who wrote the song. Would it still be funny if Al Sharpton was singing a song called "Kill Whitey"?
December 25, 201411 yr Funny or not all depends on individual taste. What isn't funny to you apparently was funny to the one who wrote the song. Would it still be funny if Al Sharpton was singing a song called "Kill Whitey"? Not to most, but I'm sure that there are some out there who would enjoy it. Which I think he was trying to say in his post. I think most people would say that they don't find rape jokes funny, but if I'm being honest I've heard one by Louie CK and I laughed. Doesn't make me a bad person or supporter of rape.
December 25, 201411 yr I am not sure what they could do to an active officer. Not a thing unless he/she participated in the song.
December 25, 201411 yr Author Funny or not all depends on individual taste. What isn't funny to you apparently was funny to the one who wrote the song. Of course. Some people might think songs can be funny about sexually abusing a baby. Most do not. This song leans that way .
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