What BAC does it take for someone to be "very drunk"? When they tested her, it was .04 BAC and they have extrapolated that to .10 at the time of the "attack". .08 is legally drunk. I do not think it makes you "very drunk" or "tore down drunk".

 

That's to say nothing of what you are simply assuming.

 

Depends on the person, different people are affected in different ways. .10 could make some unable to function while to others it's just a buzz. Just one more question that could have been answered if a proper investigate had been completed. It's a shame.

BTW, RE: the discussion as to whether she knew him, it has been widely speculated (to the extent that Jameis's attorney even included it in statements) that she was part of the FSU "Cleat Chasers". If true, doesn't mean she for sure knew who he was, only that she might be more aware than the normal person as to who athletes were.

It's just naive to believe otherwise. People at Universities the size of FSU know who the athletes are.

 

Some of the better college teams are not in major cities. It would be different if FSU was in New York City.

I don't know everyone processes alcohol differently. What is her height and weight, what had she had to eat, what was her experience/tolerance to alcohol? There are many factors but based solely on his testimony I can deduce that she was at a club near closing, dancing by herself, had already given someone her phone number and was underage to be drinking. Isn't that enough to tell you she was in all likelyhood "very drunk"? Have you ever been to a college bar near closing or known the type of guy who hung around the bar/club/party near closing just waiting to pick off the low hanging fruit. To me that was Winston in this case, he was that guy, that bad guy. Maybe not a rapist but they kind of guy that will take advantage of others for his gain. There is too much evidence in other Winston situations to not be able to tell he's not the most upstanding guy. Again, that doesn't necessarily make him a criminal but it doesn't make him someone you'd want your daughter to bring home.

Depends on the person, different people are affected in different ways. .10 could make some unable to function while to others it's just a buzz. Just one more question that could have been answered if a proper investigate had been completed. It's a shame.

 

Well that part of the investigation was completed. She blew a .04 and they extrapolated (speculated?) it would have been .10 at the time of the attack. That's from the reports and even discussed in Meggs' press conference last year when they declined to press charges.

Very good article about this. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ugly-treatment-of-jameis-winston-s-accuser-only-serves-to-discourage-future-victims-034943507-ncaaf.html

I don't know everyone processes alcohol differently. What is her height and weight, what had she had to eat, what was her experience/tolerance to alcohol? There are many factors but based solely on his testimony I can deduce that she was at a club near closing, dancing by herself, had already given someone her phone number and was underage to be drinking. Isn't that enough to tell you she was in all likelyhood "very drunk"? Have you ever been to a college bar near closing or known the type of guy who hung around the bar/club/party near closing just waiting to pick off the low hanging fruit. To me that was Winston in this case, he was that guy, that bad guy. Maybe not a rapist but they kind of guy that will take advantage of others for his gain. There is too much evidence in other Winston situations to not be able to tell he's not the most upstanding guy. Again, that doesn't necessarily make him a criminal but it doesn't make him someone you'd want your daughter to bring home.

 

How many bars do you know that close at 11PM? I'm not sure you've read up on this very much.

Well that part of the investigation was completed. She blew a .04 and they extrapolated (speculated?) it would have been .10 at the time of the attack. That's from the reports and even discussed in Meggs' press conference last year when they declined to press charges.

 

Correct. What we don't know is how she was functioning. Is she someone who shrugs off a .10 or is she wiped out by it? She was an underage drinker so did it affect her more or not? Interviews with those in the bar that night would have helped. Sounds like both were with groups and the employees might have recalled how bad off she was/was not. Were those interviews done?

How many bars do you know that close at 11PM? I'm not sure you've read up on this very much.

 

When I was in college I'd visit friends at EKU and all of the bars at EKU closed at Midnight. There were a pelthora of very drunk, barely able to stand college girls leaving the dog (Dating myself). :lol2:

Why would she know him? He was not yet the star quarterback when this happened and not everyone knows what the next great athlete looks like. She started new classes the following month and he was in the class.

 

Lot's of questions to be sure. I would think they could at least track down the girl with her in the bar to get her account. Not sure if that ever happened.

 

Here is something that should be easy to clear up. He said in his statement that he texted her in the bar and she responded to him and that she came out and they left together. BINGO! If he is telling the truth, the phone records of the text are there. She could have given the cops his phone number from the text and they could have known who he was in about 5 minutes. If he did NOT text her like he said he did, then it would be easy to find out if he is lying. My bet is that he did or why would he say he did when it is so easy to find out if he did now. The more I think about this, the more I think she knew who he was.

If she knew his name, please give me a rational explanation of why she did not report his name, nor that he was an athlete.

 

Because he didn't really rape her...?

Here is something that should be easy to clear up. He said in his statement that he texted her in the bar and she responded to him and that she came out and they left together. BINGO! If he is telling the truth, the phone records of the text are there. She could have given the cops his phone number from the text and they could have known who he was in about 5 minutes. If he did NOT text her like he said he did, then it would be easy to find out if he is lying. My bet is that he did or why would he say he did when it is so easy to find out if he did now. The more I think about this, the more I think she knew who he was.

 

Why go through all the embarrassment and inconvenience that night and the next day?

I do think there will be some type of closure or whatever you want to call it. The judge has been praised by both sides and has had access to all the records. I just hope the ruling is quick either way he/she rules.

Why didn't she name him immediately if she knew who he was? Why did her aunt/attorney then say they were concerned going forward because they had learned how big a deal he was? Makes no sense.

 

I think people on here who are sports fans way over estimate the importance of sports and don't recognize the fact that there is a large percentage of the population who don't follow it closely enough to recognize a face. They might recall a name but even that isn't a given.

 

There are a lot of good questions that could be answered by interviewing people who were in the bar with the girl. I haven't seen anything that shows that has been done.

 

I also think people are underestimating the culture of big time athletes on big time college campuses. I guarantee if I went to Two Keys on a Thursday night and Brian Long was there everyone in the bar would know it. There is no way that Jameis was at Potbelly's and everyone there didn't know it or who he was.

 

He's like 6'5" too???? My brain is like how did you not know who he was or that he was an athlete at FSU???

I also think people are underestimating the culture of big time athletes on big time college campuses. I guarantee if I went to Two Keys on a Thursday night and Brian Long was there everyone in the bar would know it. There is no way that Jameis was at Potbelly's and everyone there didn't know it or who he was.

 

He's like 6'5" too???? My brain is like how did you not know who he was or that he was an athlete at FSU???

 

I'm one who believes her but if your case is correct, why go through with everything else that night and stop short of naming him?