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Unarmed shoplifter killed by the police

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What are you even trying to say? That makes no sense at all.

 

I believe it does if you look at post #264. Where police involved homicides of white people in LA is nearly 2.5 times higher than that of any other race. Or maybe it's just about special circumstances.....

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That makes sense to me, what if it were your brother?

 

Not avoiding the question. Explain and I'll answer.

I haven't been paying too much attention this issue, but has the governor or other state officials there commented on this entire issue?

As a good officer, you should have no problem being on video. That's my thoughts

Agreed, if anything it's a tool. I can't just yet but I will have some stats here soon. Heard about it the other day.

Not avoiding the question. Explain and I'll answer.

 

I'm not even about to go back and look, send me a link and I will explain.

I'm not even about to go back and look, send me a link and I will explain.

 

You quoted me on the top of page 14

Agreed. But I am talking about if an officer knows something he should go to his superiors, and those people need to act, and quickly.

 

I assure you, that happens A lot. It's just not put on the news.

I believe it does if you look at post #264. Where police involved homicides of white people in LA is nearly 2.5 times higher than that of any other race. Or maybe it's just about special circumstances.....

 

Doesn't that show 99 officer involved homicides of whites, 262 officer involved shootings of Hispanics, 140 officer involved shootings of blacks and 13 officer involved shootings of Asians?

 

That clearly DOES NOT show that whites are being killed in officer involved shootings at a higher rate than people of color in LA.

Doesn't that show 99 officer involved homicides of whites, 262 officer involved shootings of Hispanics, 140 officer involved shootings of blacks and 13 officer involved shootings of Asians?

 

That clearly DOES NOT show that whites are being killed in officer involved shootings that people of color in LA.

 

To be fair he was quoting by % percentage. Based on the number of shootings of each race . If you were white and shot you had a better chance of being shot by a cop than other races.

To be fair he was quoting by % percentage. Based on the number of shootings of each race . If you were white and shot you had a better chance of being shot by a cop than other races.

 

 

Which only shows that there is less white on white murder. The point that SF was trying to make is that whites were being shot by police at a higher rate than people of color in LA--and that is just not true.

Believe me man I get what you're saying but sadly, for the most part you are misinformed. Not too many PD's roll around with auto guns, and the vehicles are usually GIVEN to the departments(no cash transaction) so again that's not really a political thing.

 

 

Whether they are fully automatics or not they are being given a lot of heavy weaponry. And I'm not as misinformed as you think in regards to the money spent on these vehicles and other equipment. While it is true that a lot of these vehicles are given to the various law enforcement agencies a lot of them as well as a lot of other equipment is brand new. It is purchased by the DOD and then distributed--it isn't just surplus. Here's a quote from a report on the subject:

 

The 1033 statute authorizes the Department of Defense

to transfer property that is “excess to the needs of the

Department,”63 which can include new equipment; in

fact, 36 percent of the property transferred pursuant the

program is brand new.64 Thus, it appears that DLA can

simply purchase property from an equipment or weapons

manufacturer and transfer it to a local law enforcement

agency free of charge. Given that more than a third of

property transferred under the program is in fact new, it

appears that this practice happens with some regularity.

 

Gallatin County, Ky, (pop. 8,589) has a Humvee, and probably a whole bunch of other heavy artillery that they don't need. Ridiculously unnecessary. Just more of the silly aftereffects of 9/11 fear, and to a certain degree that shootout in LA years ago when those guys had the cops outgunned. Like terrorists are going to bother with a county that size. Unless, of course, the meth dealers and cookers in my home county have become equally militarized, which is definitely not the case.

 

Classic overkill.

 

How is a humvee different than any other vehicle? Slower and better off road? Id agree if it had a .50 cal attached to it but unless that's the case it's just a slow moving vehicle many departments can use during emergency situations to get certain places a crown vic/patrol won't go (snow, tornadoes etc).

 

As for whoever was complaining about costs of these vehicles...they're usually free or very cheap and cost very little to tax payers.

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How is a humvee different than any other vehicle? Slower and better off road? Id agree if it had a .50 cal attached to it but unless that's the case it's just a slow moving vehicle many departments can use during emergency situations to get certain places a crown vic/patrol won't go (snow, tornadoes etc).

 

As for whoever was complaining about costs of these vehicles...they're usually free or very cheap and cost very little to tax payers.

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That's a common misnomer, it depends on which program they come from:

 

It is clear that local law enforcement agencies use DHS

funds ostensibly obtained for the purpose of fighting

terrorism to conduct ordinary law enforcement

activities. In New Hampshire, for example, three police

departments—in Concord, Keene, and Manchester (cities

that are separated from each other by approximately 30

miles)—each used DHS grants to fund the purchase of an

armored BearCat (the amount of grants received by these

agencies ranged from $215,000 to $286,000). Justifications

offered for these grants included prevention, protection,

response, and recovery activities pertaining to weapons of

mass destruction and the threat of terrorism

 

That isn't one vehicle shared by 3 nearby cites, each city got the funding for one. They cost taxpayers at least $615,000.

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