April 22, 201412 yr I am just saying that in my opinion Cueto and Cingrani have more upside to be that #1, #2 pitcher that can carry you through a post season. I would wait and see on both. They may not be the players that I throw the money at. I am just saying I would not have thrown it at Bailey either. I know that Bailey has thrown a couple of no hitters and that he has looked good in stretches, but I just don't think he was worth the money they just spent. Homer Bailey has pitched 9 post season innings allowing a total of 3 hits with 1 walk, giving up 1 run and striking out 12 batters. He won the SF series for them if they didn't have a couple bone headed player and managing decisions. Why do fans care so much about contracts on these guys? The Reds have shown a willingness to spend money ever since Castellini took over. He knows he's going to get even more money from the new TV contract. I don't see their payroll dipping below $80M anytime soon. Of course Bailey's numbers aren't the best ever but he got fair market value if not below it to stay. He didn't get the Kershaw deal. He's improved every year and I think he's historically started seasons slow. Tough to judge this contract right now.
April 22, 201412 yr Homer Bailey has pitched 9 post season innings allowing a total of 3 hits with 1 walk, giving up 1 run and striking out 12 batters. He won the SF series for them if they didn't have a couple bone headed player and managing decisions. Why do fans care so much about contracts on these guys? The Reds have shown a willingness to spend money ever since Castellini took over. He knows he's going to get even more money from the new TV contract. I don't see their payroll dipping below $80M anytime soon. Of course Bailey's numbers aren't the best ever but he got fair market value if not below it to stay. He didn't get the Kershaw deal. He's improved every year and I think he's historically started seasons slow. Tough to judge this contract right now. Really? Did you really just type that?
April 22, 201412 yr I believe that's about the time that Latos, Cueto and Chapman are all FA... Correct? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dEdTWTJFemZTeUdnLXVkQjh1VWdWRnc&output=html Chapman is arbitration eligible for the 3rd time ( I think that might be wrong, he might be a FA). Cueto , Leake, and Latos are free agents. Votto jumps to $20M that year as well.
April 22, 201412 yr Really? Did you really just type that? Yeah. Is there something that makes fans think this ownership group will nickle dime the fans to death like their neighbors? Of course they could end up being in contract hell in 3 years, but who cares right now? Go for the damn thing and see what happens. These contracts aren't going down. Cingrani will get more than Bailey from whoever he gets his from when he gets his next deal.
April 22, 201412 yr https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dEdTWTJFemZTeUdnLXVkQjh1VWdWRnc&output=html Chapman is arbitration eligible for the 3rd time, Cueto , Leake, and Latos are free agents. Votto jumps to $20M that year as well. They knew they couldn't sign a healthy Cueto and Latos is my guess as to why they got Bailey. They thought they could do Bailey, Leake and one or the other. Now it looks like Latos' contract may be a tad lower b/c of injury.
April 22, 201412 yr Yeah. Is there something that makes fans think this ownership group will nickle dime the fans to death like their neighbors? Of course they could end up being in contract hell in 3 years, but who cares right now? Go for the damn thing and see what happens. These contracts aren't going down. Cingrani will get more than Bailey from whoever he gets his from when he gets his next deal. That's why I care.
April 22, 201412 yr https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dEdTWTJFemZTeUdnLXVkQjh1VWdWRnc&output=html Chapman is arbitration eligible for the 3rd time, Cueto , Leake, and Latos are free agents. Votto jumps to $20M that year as well. OK. I'm not getting the point as to how that impacts this season and so far a somewhat failure??
April 22, 201412 yr https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dEdTWTJFemZTeUdnLXVkQjh1VWdWRnc&output=html Chapman is arbitration eligible for the 3rd time ( I think that might be wrong, he might be a FA). Cueto , Leake, and Latos are free agents. Votto jumps to $20M that year as well. I've always been under the impression that we had Chapman until his first contract ran out, and were unlikely to get him beyond that. I think they know/are planning on losing one of their starters in the next couple years. Stephenson has been a minor league monster and will be ready soon...
April 22, 201412 yr That's why I care. I just don't see it. I also hope they go for it this year and next year without worrying about the future contract hell. It didn't work out last year but I'm glad they went for it. 1 title and I'd be good with a few years of contract hell if that was to happen.
April 22, 201412 yr I just don't see it. I also hope they go for it this year and next year without worrying about the future contract hell. It didn't work out last year but I'm glad they went for it. 1 title and I'd be good with a few years of contract hell if that was to happen. I'd be better with sustained success....
April 22, 201412 yr OK. I'm not getting the point as to how that impacts this season and so far a somewhat failure?? It doesn't, he asked.
April 22, 201412 yr Homer has the best stuff on the team. It's still, and always has been, a matter of what's between the ears with him IMO. The guy with the best "stuff" is the same guy that struggles mightily to put hitters away with 2 strike counts. There is no chance I would have signed him long term at that price tag...
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