I guess I should have been shot on quite a few occasions back in my teenage days... :idunno:

A strange man...in my daughters bedroom late at night that's there un be known to me...my daughter says she doest know him...he reaches for something in his pants that for all I know is a gun or knife...my question is...how in the world does he NOT get shot in that situation? Good lord, I'm sure glad some people on this borad aren't in charge of my protection or protecting this country. I'm not saying the situation wasn't tragic, and by gosh I would never want to be put in that particular situation, but you CAN'T sneak into a mans house at night and not expect to put your life in danger people!

In this day and age, you better be worried about getting shot.

 

Really? She snuck her boyfriend in and he should be worried about getting shot?

 

Beechwood parents sure have changed! Get 'em Butch Cassidy. :ohbrother:

how in the world does he NOT get shot in that situation?

Did I take a nap and wake up in 1841 Dodge City, KS?

Did I fall asleep and wake up in an episode of Leave It To Beaver? My gish even back in my "wild" tEenage days I had a very healthy respect for a girls dad and knew not to do something stupid in his house...like sneak in through his little girls window, cause something bad just might happen. And here it did.

A strange man...in my daughters bedroom late at night that's there un be known to me...my daughter says she doest know him...he reaches for something in his pants that for all I know is a gun or knife...my question is...how in the world does he NOT get shot in that situation? Good lord, I'm sure glad some people on this borad aren't in charge of my protection or protecting this country. I'm not saying the situation wasn't tragic, and by gosh I would never want to be put in that particular situation, but you CAN'T sneak into a mans house at night and not expect to put your life in danger people!

 

I understand your overall point and I'm not sure how I would have reacted in a similar situation, but the bolded is taking it too far. Aren't those that are in charge of protecting our country tasked with distinguishing between friend and foe?

The daughter wasn't screaming out in distress, and the dad entered the room because his son told him he saw two sets of feet in her bed. Odds are real strong the dad knew exactly what he was walking in to, and shot to kill at the first chance possible. All because his teenage daughter was doing teenage daughter things. That's the story as it has been told...

The daughter wasn't screaming out in distress' date=' and the dad entered the room because his son told him he saw two sets of feet in her bed. Odds are real strong the dad knew exactly what he was walking in to, and shot to kill at the first chance possible. All because his teenage daughter was doing teenage daughter things. That's the story as it has been told...[/quote']

 

Bingo.

 

In this day and age, you better be worried about getting shot.

 

Sorry, I choose not to live in a world where I'm scared of my own shadow.

The daughter wasn't screaming out in distress, and the dad entered the room because his son told him he saw two sets of feet in her bed. Odds are real strong the dad knew exactly what he was walking in to, and shot to kill at the first chance possible. All because his teenage daughter was doing teenage daughter things. That's the story as it has been told...

All the daughter had to do was say she knew him and none of this would have happened.

 

As far as not screaming there have been cases of people getting raped in their own bedroom that didn't scream due to threats to the rest of the family or a knife to their throat...so not screaming isn't a golden ticket here.

 

It all comes back to the daughter denying she knew the guy and then the guy at gun point going for his pants and the father not wanting to allow him a chance to pull out a possible knife or gun.

I understand your overall point and I'm not sure how I would have reacted in a similar situation, but the bolded is taking it too far. Aren't those that are in charge of protecting our country tasked with distinguishing between friend and foe?

 

To far? No dont think so. There are some people that are not cut out for certain things, and by the comments of some I have seen I definetly would not want them in charge of any type of security where a trigger might have to be pulled, regardless of this particular case. And that's not a knock on them, some people just aren't cut out for it. I could never be an airplane pilot because I'm deathly afraid of heights. I was approached to see if I would be instreted in joining a special forces unit when I was in the Army, but again my fear of heights would just not allow me to be a good candidate for that job. And hey, it works the other way too...I wouldn't want somebody in a job that's requires a trigger to be pulled who would pull one at a drop of the hat whenever and whereever and have to qualms about it. Those people are dangerous.

 

Now as far as this case, point is you can NOT sneak uninvited (by the adult) into a house and not expect some possible dire consequences if caught. I just don't understand how some peopl just in general aren't or can't grasp that concept, its mind boggling to me. Heck I have specificly told a young man who was a friend of my gf daughter who a caught sneaking around outside her window one night, that that's a good way to get shot and it might happen the next time he does it somewhere. Especially the way he reacted and came towards me when I caught him. Bad bad bad juju guys, if someone has to sneak into a house they are probably doing something wrong

Sorry, I choose not to live in a world where I'm scared of my own shadow.

 

But if you sneak into someones house Jim, I'd say you sure as heck better be worried. And I think that's kind of the angle he was going for in the comment.

To far? No dont think so. There are some people that are not cut out for certain things, and by the comments of some I have seen I definetly would not want them in charge of any type of security where a trigger might have to be pulled, regardless of this particular case. And that's not a knock on them, some people just aren't cut out for it. I could never be an airplane pilot because I'm deathly afraid of heights. I was approached to see if I would be instreted in joining a special forces unit when I was in the Army, but again my fear of heights would just not allow me to be a good candidate for that job. And hey, it works the other way too...I wouldn't want somebody in a job that's requires a trigger to be pulled who would pull one at a drop of the hat whenever and whereever and have to qualms about it. Those people are dangerous.

 

Now as far as this case, point is you can NOT sneak uninvited (by the adult) into a house and not expect some possible dire consequences if caught. I just don't understand how some peopl just in general aren't or can't grasp that concept, its mind boggling to me. Heck I have specificly told a young man who was a friend of my gf daughter who a caught sneaking around outside her window one night, that that's a good way to get shot and it might happen the next time he does it somewhere. Especially the way he reacted and came towards me when I caught him. Bad bad bad juju guys, if someone has to sneak into a house they are probably doing something wrong

 

1) This wasn't a situation where a trigger had to be pulled.

 

2) The deceased wasn't doing anything wrong in this instance.

 

3) When I was a kid, numerous times I went to friends houses, both boy and girl, without the parent inviting me in. My friend would. As a guest at someone's home, I don't see any reason you should be fearful of a maniac opening fire on you.

 

4) The lack of value some of you place on human life is truly appalling.

To far? No dont think so. There are some people that are not cut out for certain things, and by the comments of some I have seen I definetly would not want them in charge of any type of security where a trigger might have to be pulled, regardless of this particular case. And that's not a knock on them, some people just aren't cut out for it. I could never be an airplane pilot because I'm deathly afraid of heights. I was approached to see if I would be instreted in joining a special forces unit when I was in the Army, but again my fear of heights would just not allow me to be a good candidate for that job. And hey, it works the other way too...I wouldn't want somebody in a job that's requires a trigger to be pulled who would pull one at a drop of the hat whenever and whereever and have to qualms about it. Those people are dangerous.

 

Now as far as this case, point is you can NOT sneak uninvited (by the adult) into a house and not expect some possible dire consequences if caught. I just don't understand how some peopl just in general aren't or can't grasp that concept, its mind boggling to me. Heck I have specificly told a young man who was a friend of my gf daughter who a caught sneaking around outside her window one night, that that's a good way to get shot and it might happen the next time he does it somewhere. Especially the way he reacted and came towards me when I caught him. Bad bad bad juju guys, if someone has to sneak into a house they are probably doing something wrong

Certainly too far. You didn't answer my question.

1) This wasn't a situation where a trigger had to be pulled.

 

2) The deceased wasn't doing anything wrong in this instance.

 

3) When I was a kid, numerous times I went to friends houses, both boy and girl, without the parent inviting me in. My friend would. As a guest at someone's home, I don't see any reason you should be fearful of a maniac opening fire on you.

 

4) The lack of value some of you place on human life is truly appalling.

 

1. Hind site is 20/20. You have the benefit of it, the dad didn't.

 

2. He snuck into the house at night without the parent knowing. That in and of itself is wrong and put him in a situation he ultimitely did not want to be in.

 

3. Not the same situation...at all.

 

4. Strawman argument. Some of us are sinply stating that we understand how this incindent could happen given the circumstances and the reaction of the young man, with the information presented. No where has anyone said they don't value life or that it wasn't a tragic situation or anything like that. I'm valuing life right now by telling people please DON'T sneak into my house, it might end up in a situations that neither of us want to find ourselves in.