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Simon Kenton 2014

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Isn't that their goal each, go undefeated in the regular season and lose in early rounds of playoffs?

 

Perhaps you consider the regional finals to be an early round? I see an alternative spin. Since the program has been to the regional finals 4 out of the last five years, that means they are in the top 8 in their class on a consistent basis. I can live with that.

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I just finished reading two letters from college coaches telling my son they had talked to his coach( Marksberry ). This thread would be more interesting if people didnt comment on things they know nothing about.

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I just finished reading two letters from college coaches telling my son they had talked to his coach( Marksberry ). This thread would be more interesting if people didnt comment on things they know nothing about.

I agree. Coaches even at DIII contact players they want for their teams. We've had a certain coach text on a daily baisis and call once a week for the longest time until my son made is decision.

 

To say DIII doesn't count simply tells me someone has no clue how much some of these school go out searching for good players.

Getting over 50k in financial package a year because he is a player they want speaks volumes.

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D1 and D2 are ones to count. Lots of kids that start on there high school team can pay to play at the D3 level.

 

Really? Any player playing at the next level counts and any players game who are playing at the D1, D2, D3 or NAIA level (which is equivalent to D2) is just as important to that player. Amazing how people get caught up in the "level" someone is playing at not "mattering". Ask NAIA University of the Cumberlands who went 13-0 before losing in the National Championship just how unimportant their game was or D3 Thomas More, a consistent playoff team, how those players don't "matter". If they are getting a significant portion or in some case nearly all of their education paid for at the "lower levels" and they are continuing to play the sport they love so be it.

 

Kentucky isn't and probably never will be a hotbed for football recruiting at the D1 level and to that I say...SO. What matters is Ky kids going on to play the game they love regardless of what level.

Get a clue A-101, less that 3% of all football players get the opportunty to play at the D1 and D2 levels but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

Really? Any player playing at the next level counts and any players game who are playing at the D1, D2, D3 or NAIA level (which is equivalent to D2) is just as important to that player. Amazing how people get caught up in the "level" someone is playing at not "mattering". Ask NAIA University of the Cumberlands who went 13-0 before losing in the National Championship just how unimportant their game was or D3 Thomas More, a consistent playoff team, how those players don't "matter". If they are getting a significant portion or in some case nearly all of their education paid for at the "lower levels" and they are continuing to play the sport they love so be it.

 

Kentucky isn't and probably never will be a hotbed for football recruiting at the D1 level and to that I say...SO. What matters is Ky kids going on to play the game they love regardless of what level.

Get a clue A-101, less that 3% of all football players get the opportunty to play at the D1 and D2 levels but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

 

Most D3 kids are not getting a large portion of there school paid for. Thats just not true. IN fact some D3 schools use sports as an emrollment tool. Thats a fact. Some D3 have 800-900 students, and they field a football team with 80 kids basketball and so on. Over 20% of the students are playing a sport.

 

To keep everyone honest, the NCAA requires each Division III school to report how much money it gives to students who play sports and how much money it gives to nonathletes. Those numbers show that athletes at Division III schools, on average, aren't getting significantly more money than nonathletes. Sports players make up 21 percent of the student body at Division III schools, he said. In recent years, the NCAA has found that athletes receive 22 percent of all the scholarship dollars handed out by Division III schools.

 

Do Division III Schools Give Athletic Scholarships? - US News

Most D3 kids are not getting a large portion of there school paid for. Thats just not true. IN fact some D3 schools use sports as an emrollment tool. Thats a fact. Some D3 have 800-900 students, and they field a football team with 80 kids basketball and so on. Over 20% of the students are playing a sport.

 

To keep everyone honest, the NCAA requires each Division III school to report how much money it gives to students who play sports and how much money it gives to nonathletes. Those numbers show that athletes at Division III schools, on average, aren't getting significantly more money than nonathletes. Sports players make up 21 percent of the student body at Division III schools, he said. In recent years, the NCAA has found that athletes receive 22 percent of all the scholarship dollars handed out by Division III schools.

 

Do Division III Schools Give Athletic Scholarships? - US News

I'm not sure where you're getting all your information, but I can tell you for a fact that my son was offered well over 50% total cost to attend by several D3 schools.

I'm not sure where you're getting all your information, but I can tell you for a fact that my son was offered well over 50% total cost to attend by several D3 schools.

 

Open up the link

I'm not sure where you're getting all your information, but I can tell you for a fact that my son was offered well over 50% total cost to attend by several D3 schools.

 

Did he have a Good GPA? ACT score? needs based?

Open up the link

I'm well aware of how the recruiting process works, and I looked at the article.

 

I thought it entirely possible that you digested the information in that article with multiple other sources to draw your conclusion before posting the information you supplied.

 

Nonetheless, I'm just telling you that I know, first hand, of players that have been offered and received much more tuition assistance then the numbers you have supplied.

Most D3 kids are not getting a large portion of there school paid for. Thats just not true. IN fact some D3 schools use sports as an emrollment tool. Thats a fact. Some D3 have 800-900 students, and they field a football team with 80 kids basketball and so on. Over 20% of the students are playing a sport.

 

To keep everyone honest, the NCAA requires each Division III school to report how much money it gives to students who play sports and how much money it gives to nonathletes. Those numbers show that athletes at Division III schools, on average, aren't getting significantly more money than nonathletes. Sports players make up 21 percent of the student body at Division III schools, he said. In recent years, the NCAA has found that athletes receive 22 percent of all the scholarship dollars handed out by Division III schools.

 

Do Division III Schools Give Athletic Scholarships? - US News

I'm not sure what that link was for. Everyone knows DIII can not give "Athletic" scholarships, yet are able to award students other monies to make up for it. My son for instance is going to a DIII school in which they have $850 million in endowments just for next year alone.

He is a very smart kid which for this particular educational institute has helped immensely in him getting the financial package he was awarded. For a school which costs 60k a year he has been awarded over 50% a year in his financial package alone.

 

DIII can not give athletic scholarships, but there are other ways they can award money to student athletes to make up for it and they do on a constant basis.

I'm not sure what that link was for. Everyone knows DIII can not give "Athletic" scholarships' date=' yet are able to award students other monies to make up for it. My son for instance is going to a DIII school in which they have $850 million in endowments just for next year alone. He is a very smart kid which for this particular educational institute has helped immensely in him getting the financial package he was awarded. For a school which costs 60k a year he has been awarded over 50% a year in his financial package alone. DIII can not give athletic scholarships, but there are other ways they can award money to student athletes to make up for it and they do on a constant basis.[/quote']

 

Well said.

Most D3 kids are not getting a large portion of there school paid for. Thats just not true. IN fact some D3 schools use sports as an emrollment tool. Thats a fact. Some D3 have 800-900 students, and they field a football team with 80 kids basketball and so on. Over 20% of the students are playing a sport.

 

To keep everyone honest, the NCAA requires each Division III school to report how much money it gives to students who play sports and how much money it gives to nonathletes. Those numbers show that athletes at Division III schools, on average, aren't getting significantly more money than nonathletes. Sports players make up 21 percent of the student body at Division III schools, he said. In recent years, the NCAA has found that athletes receive 22 percent of all the scholarship dollars handed out by Division III schools.

 

Do Division III Schools Give Athletic Scholarships? - US News

 

No need to clue me in on the particulars of who gets scholarship money, how much and who doesn't as I am well aware of that fact having athletes of my own. My exception to your post is your indication is that D1 and D2 "is what counts". Since you are so well versed in college recruiting and funding I am sure you are aware that not ALL D1 and D2 rostered athletes are on scholarship. There are limits at at all these levels D1=85, D1 FCS=63, D2=36, and NAIA=24. Last I checked all these levels had more rostered players than the allotted scholarship numbers but I guess those players "don't count" per your analogy. Again, any player going on to realize a dream of playing at the next level "counts" IMO so please don't discredit these players efforts.

D1 and D2 are ones to count. Lots of kids that start on there high school team can pay to play at the D3 level.

 

Big deal, they still are college football players and more power to them!

No need to clue me in on the particulars of who gets scholarship money, how much and who doesn't as I am well aware of that fact having athletes of my own. My exception to your post is your indication is that D1 and D2 "is what counts". Since you are so well versed in college recruiting and funding I am sure you are aware that not ALL D1 and D2 rostered athletes are on scholarship. There are limits at at all these levels D1=85, D1 FCS=63, D2=36, and NAIA=24. Last I checked all these levels had more rostered players than the allotted scholarship numbers but I guess those players "don't count" per your analogy. Again, any player going on to realize a dream of playing at the next level "counts" IMO so please don't discredit these players efforts.

 

All but D1 can split scholarships. Example, an NAIA roster could have 48 players n half scholarship. Most of the players on these team recieve som athletic scholarship money.

D1 and D2 are ones to count. Lots of kids that start on there high school team can pay to play at the D3 level.

Did you play college ball?

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