Anybody playing college football is living out a young boys dream. Some get compensated to do it and some do not. Some play on Saturday while others never get that chance. I don't have an issue with kids chasing their dreams.

I just finished reading two letters from college coaches telling my son they had talked to his coach( Marksberry ). This thread would be more interesting if people didnt comment on things they know nothing about.

 

Dear Coach, is there anyone at your school we should.send a letter to? Yes, jimmy, johnny, and joey.

 

What amazes me is how little parents know about the process, and think a letter shows true interest. Those letters were received by a hundred other kids. This is in no way an indictment on the coach, just lack of understanding how it happens. I dont care how many phone calls a coach makes, not gonna get a kid an offer unles talent warrants it. They get questionaiires all the time, and just fill in blanks.

Dear Coach, is there anyone at your school we should.send a letter to? Yes, jimmy, johnny, and joey.

 

What amazes me is how little parents know about the process, and think a letter shows true interest. Those letters were received by a hundred other kids. This is in no way an indictment on the coach, just lack of understanding how it happens. I dont care how many phone calls a coach makes, not gonna get a kid an offer unles talent warrants it. They get questionaiires all the time, and just fill in blanks.

 

There's a really good thread on college recruiting if anyone would like to take a look. Yes, often form letters come from big schools to younger HS kids. The coaches that are seriously interested will send you a hand written note, stay in touch via text or school visit. Many may request film and disappear after watching. As I've said many times, slow/short guys go to NAIA/D3 and fast/tall kids go to D1. FCS and D2 fill in the middle. Nothing wrong with it, just the way it is.

There's a really good thread on college recruiting if anyone would like to take a look. Yes' date=' often form letters come from big schools to younger HS kids. The coaches that are seriously interested will send you a hand written note, stay in touch via text or school visit. Many may request film and disappear after watching. As I've said many times, slow/short guys go to NAIA/D3 and fast/tall kids go to D1. FCS and D2 fill in the middle. Nothing wrong with it, just the way it is.[/quote']

 

Well said.

There's a really good thread on college recruiting if anyone would like to take a look. Yes, often form letters come from big schools to younger HS kids. The coaches that are seriously interested will send you a hand written note, stay in touch via text or school visit. Many may request film and disappear after watching. As I've said many times, slow/short guys go to NAIA/D3 and fast/tall kids go to D1. FCS and D2 fill in the middle. Nothing wrong with it, just the way it is.

 

I would agree with your comments with the exception of the NAIA level. NAIA is equivalent to D2 in most cases other than the 12 scholarship difference and I can assure you there are plenty of tall/fast kids at this level.

I would agree with your comments with the exception of the NAIA level. NAIA is equivalent to D2 in most cases other than the 12 scholarship difference and I can assure you there are plenty of tall/fast kids at this level.

 

I'm sure there are kids at NAIA that are good athletes but doubt that they 'fell through the cracks' and were missed by D1 or FCS schools. From a purely KY standpoint, NAIA is fairly similar to D2 but don't think it's the case nationwide.

I'm sure there are kids at NAIA that are good athletes but doubt that they 'fell through the cracks' and were missed by D1 or FCS schools. From a purely KY standpoint, NAIA is fairly similar to D2 but don't think it's the case nationwide.

 

I'll disagree and we both are entitled to our opinions. On avg. this may might be the case but I disagree that all cases fall into category of being short and slow. I think you are missing is the players that had D1/D2 opportunities either as a PWO or at a D1 schools that doesn't provide scholarships in football. It's all about what a players goals are. Play potentially immediately or take a chance and maybe end up holding your helmet on Saturdays. Have 2 very good son's in this category and each chose different paths (1 who chose D1 who started in his 2nd year and broke school records and another NAIA) and it's worked out just fine.

 

Just because a player is on a D1 or D2 roster really doesn't mean that player will EVER see the field. You may or may not be familiar with the term SQ on any football roster in the Experience column. If you're not this means a player is on a roster but has NEVER played 1 down in their career (take a look at UC's roster if you're not familiar as they have some Jr.'s and Sr.'s in this category). Not dis-crediting those kids but just stating fact and if that works for them more power to them. So again, if that player is on the team and that is what they are looking for that's ok.

 

And to your point about NAIA not being similar nationwide I really don't think it matters to a Georgetown (3 National Titles) or a University of the Cumberlands who's only loss came in the 2013 National Championship game this past season.

Edited March 12, 201412 yr by Mr. Sixer

As you say, I know of kids that turned down D2 offers to take PWO offers at the D1 level. In most cases, the D1 offer didn't come because of the measurables of the athlete. The player chose to 'play up' in spite of the lack of scholarship. My point in the whole thing is that none of this matters as long as the kid is happy.

As you say, I know of kids that turned down D2 offers to take PWO offers at the D1 level. In most cases, the D1 offer didn't come because of the measurables of the athlete. The player chose to 'play up' in spite of the lack of scholarship. My point in the whole thing is that none of this matters as long as the kid is happy.

 

And on that we can both agree :ylsuper:

Any new kids playing for SK this year?

I'm not sure what that link was for. Everyone knows DIII can not give "Athletic" scholarships, yet are able to award students other monies to make up for it. My son for instance is going to a DIII school in which they have $850 million in endowments just for next year alone.

He is a very smart kid which for this particular educational institute has helped immensely in him getting the financial package he was awarded. For a school which costs 60k a year he has been awarded over 50% a year in his financial package alone.

 

DIII can not give athletic scholarships, but there are other ways they can award money to student athletes to make up for it and they do on a constant basis.

 

DIII can not make up for it. Thats what the article is pointing out. To sum it up. A DIII player gets no more monies than if that student just enrolled into the school as a nonplayer. If your son is getting 50% of the schooling paid for it's for GPA ACT scores or needs based. Thats it they can't do anymore than that. Any kid that plays at the next level is a very good football player. I'm just trying to point out that some of the lower level DIII schools use sports as an enrollment booster. The facts are that 21% of the student body are playing sports.

DIII can not make up for it. Thats what the article is pointing out. To sum it up. A DIII player gets no more monies than if that student just enrolled into the school as a nonplayer. If your son is getting 50% of the schooling paid for it's for GPA ACT scores or needs based. Thats it they can't do anymore than that. Any kid that plays at the next level is a very good football player. I'm just trying to point out that some of the lower level DIII schools use sports as an enrollment booster. The facts are that 21% of the student body are playing sports.

 

I made the same comment in the GT college thread. Many D3's use athletics as a means to boost their enrollment by having huge rosters of kids hoping to continue in athletics. Many NAIA schools do the same thing. I don't have a problem with it as long as everyone is open and honest that even though it's D3, and a school 'offers' it doesn't mean he's going to be on the varsity roster. If you need an example, look at how many kids LWC 'signed' for football or how many BB players TMC 'signed'.

I made the same comment in the GT college thread. Many D3's use athletics as a means to boost their enrollment by having huge rosters of kids hoping to continue in athletics. Many NAIA schools do the same thing. I don't have a problem with it as long as everyone is open and honest that even though it's D3, and a school 'offers' it doesn't mean he's going to be on the varsity roster. If you need an example, look at how many kids LWC 'signed' for football or how many BB players TMC 'signed'.

 

Thats all I'm saying. Thank god someone else understands this. Look at some of the DIII schools 800 students and 80 football players, baseball,basketball. DIII can not give you more monies for playing a sport. Thats why they are in DIII!! They can't give you anymore money than if the student went as a nonplayer.

Thats all I'm saying. Thank god someone else understands this. Look at some of the DIII schools 800 students and 80 football players, baseball,basketball. DIII can not give you more monies for playing a sport. Thats why they are in DIII!! They can't give you anymore money than if the student went as a nonplayer.

 

I believe they use sports to boost enrollment and am firmly committed to that belief. Either some parents/kids are 'covering' their high tuition or some schools have found some creative 'scholarships'.

I believe they use sports to boost enrollment and am firmly committed to that belief. Either some parents/kids are 'covering' their high tuition or some schools have found some creative 'scholarships'.

 

http://www.goearlham.com/custompages/student-athlete%20information/summary_of_regulations.pdf

 

Financial Aid – All Sports.a. You are not eligible if you receive financial aid other than the nonathletic financialaid that your school distributes. However, it is permissible to receive: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Summary of NCAA Regulations – NCAA Division IIIPage No. 15_________(1) Money from anyone on whom you are naturally or legally dependent. [bylaw15.2.3.3](2) Financial aid that has been awarded to you on a basis other than athleticsleadership, ability, participation or performance