It's something I picked up on years ago, and had it confirmed during the run to the Steelers' Super Bowl win over Seattle. During that regular season, the Colts beat the Steelers handily in the regular season, 26-7, and it really wasn't even that close.

 

They played again, of course, in the playoffs, and like I had seen in previous years, next to nothing changed in the offensive game plan from the first time to the playoffs. Like New England before them and San Diego afterward, the Steelers knew this and were prepared, making the necessary adjustments the second time around.

 

I've watched this scenario play out for the entirety of Peyton's career, time and again. Peyton is a classic "stay the course" and "dance with what brung ya" kind of guy; his ego doesn't allow him to second-guess his game plan. It's why he so often shows "The Manning Face," that confused, troubled look that washes across his face as he tries to figure out why what worked during the regular season no longer applies.

 

You've gotta shake things up in the playoffs and you can't be so predictable. Peyton doesn't get that, and it's why it always comes back to get him in the end.

It's something I picked up on years ago, and had it confirmed during the run to the Steelers' Super Bowl win over Seattle. During that regular season, the Colts beat the Steelers handily in the regular season, 26-7, and it really wasn't even that close.

 

They played again, of course, in the playoffs, and like I had seen in previous years, next to nothing changed in the offensive game plan from the first time to the playoffs. Like New England before them and San Diego afterward, the Steelers knew this and were prepared, making the necessary adjustments the second time around.

 

I've watched this scenario play out for the entirety of Peyton's career, time and again. Peyton is a classic "stay the course" and "dance with what brung ya" kind of guy; his ego doesn't allow him to second-guess his game plan. It's why he so often shows "The Manning Face," that confused, troubled look that washes across his face as he tries to figure out why what worked during the regular season no longer applies.

 

You've gotta shake things up in the playoffs and you can't be so predictable. Peyton doesn't get that, and it's why it always comes back to get him in the end.

 

Huh? How does this even remotely apply? Maybe it applies to years in the past, which isnt relative to this year but I dont think I follow.

 

Broncos played the Chargers in their first game (won 1 lost 1 during the regular season) and handily beat the Chargers through 3 and a half quarters. They played the Patriots second (who they lost to in the regular season) and then pretty handily beat them. (Must have been some adjustment) Then they didnt even play the Seahawks in the regular season (Lost to them in preseason which means didly). So... :idunno:

It's something I picked up on years ago, and had it confirmed during the run to the Steelers' Super Bowl win over Seattle. During that regular season, the Colts beat the Steelers handily in the regular season, 26-7, and it really wasn't even that close.

 

They played again, of course, in the playoffs, and like I had seen in previous years, next to nothing changed in the offensive game plan from the first time to the playoffs. Like New England before them and San Diego afterward, the Steelers knew this and were prepared, making the necessary adjustments the second time around.

 

I've watched this scenario play out for the entirety of Peyton's career, time and again. Peyton is a classic "stay the course" and "dance with what brung ya" kind of guy; his ego doesn't allow him to second-guess his game plan. It's why he so often shows "The Manning Face," that confused, troubled look that washes across his face as he tries to figure out why what worked during the regular season no longer applies.

 

You've gotta shake things up in the playoffs and you can't be so predictable. Peyton doesn't get that, and it's why it always comes back to get him in the end.

 

What did Seattle do that was so different from what they did during the regular season??

Huh? How does this even remotely apply? Maybe it applies to years in the past, which isnt relative to this year but I dont think I follow.

 

Broncos played the Chargers in their first game (won 1 lost 1 during the regular season) and handily beat the Chargers through 3 and a half quarters. They played the Patriots second (who they lost to in the regular season) and then pretty handily beat them. (Must have been some adjustment) Then they didnt even play the Seahawks in the regular season (Lost to them in preseason which means didly). So... :idunno:

 

While I do agree that the preseason means very little it was pointed out when the Seahawks and Broncos met both teams played their starters longer than normal for that point of the preseason. Analysts agreed that it was because they knew they wouldn't see each other in the regular season and tried to learn as much about each other as possible.

It's something I picked up on years ago, and had it confirmed during the run to the Steelers' Super Bowl win over Seattle. During that regular season, the Colts beat the Steelers handily in the regular season, 26-7, and it really wasn't even that close.

 

They played again, of course, in the playoffs, and like I had seen in previous years, next to nothing changed in the offensive game plan from the first time to the playoffs. Like New England before them and San Diego afterward, the Steelers knew this and were prepared, making the necessary adjustments the second time around.

 

I've watched this scenario play out for the entirety of Peyton's career, time and again. Peyton is a classic "stay the course" and "dance with what brung ya" kind of guy; his ego doesn't allow him to second-guess his game plan. It's why he so often shows "The Manning Face," that confused, troubled look that washes across his face as he tries to figure out why what worked during the regular season no longer applies.

 

You've gotta shake things up in the playoffs and you can't be so predictable. Peyton doesn't get that, and it's why it always comes back to get him in the end.

 

Except for the time that it didn't...

It's something I picked up on years ago, and had it confirmed during the run to the Steelers' Super Bowl win over Seattle. During that regular season, the Colts beat the Steelers handily in the regular season, 26-7, and it really wasn't even that close.

 

They played again, of course, in the playoffs, and like I had seen in previous years, next to nothing changed in the offensive game plan from the first time to the playoffs. Like New England before them and San Diego afterward, the Steelers knew this and were prepared, making the necessary adjustments the second time around.

 

I've watched this scenario play out for the entirety of Peyton's career, time and again. Peyton is a classic "stay the course" and "dance with what brung ya" kind of guy; his ego doesn't allow him to second-guess his game plan. It's why he so often shows "The Manning Face," that confused, troubled look that washes across his face as he tries to figure out why what worked during the regular season no longer applies.

 

You've gotta shake things up in the playoffs and you can't be so predictable. Peyton doesn't get that, and it's why it always comes back to get him in the end.

Really, Jim? And you base this great insight on what exactly? LOL

 

You should stick to just evaluating performance. Peyton and the Broncos sucked Sunday, no question.

 

This fiction of imagining things about someone else's thought process that you have no remote clue what you are talking about is comical, but I admit it is entertaining.

I'm pretty sure Peyton Manning has won a Super Bowl & played in 2 others.

I'd say he has won a few "Big" games along the way.

There were 30 other starting QB's that wish they had won a "Big" game this year.

You can throw this year's Super Bowl out. It was one of those games that happen to almost every team in the course of a season. The Broncos were out everythinged. This was not solely on Manning, it was on all of them He didn't have a chance to make a play when it counted or mount a comeback. They were outclassed from the get go.

 

No excuses, they just got their butts kicked and unfortunately for them, there is no tomorrow after this one. It would not have mattered who QB's them on Sunday.

When did conference championships become little games?

The way Denver's OLine was completely dominated, I don't think any other pocket passing QB could have done much better. I believe Brady and Manning both have difficulty against physical defenses because they depend too much upon the passing game for yardage.

When did conference championships become little games?

 

For the sake of Jim's argument they become minimized if Manning is able to win. Even though both games were at home, I thought Manning had a high degree of difficulty in who he was playing the first two rounds of the playoffs. The Chargers are a division foe who had just beaten the Broncos at home and play them better than anyone and we all know the history against the Pats. If anything it shows he did adjust from the first games he played them during the regular season so I am bit confused in that sense.

 

With that said, I do not fully discredit everything Jim says here. Manning is a "teeth-clencher" as Cowherd said a few weeks ago. I do disagree that it is ego related and that he has no clue why some things may not work. Manning is incredibly cerebral but very limited in his physical tools. His arm strength is not all that great - never has been - and he does throw "ducks" and will be the first to admit as such. To compensate he anticipates where receivers will be with precision. He is not a mobile guy, yet he is one of the least sacked QBs each season because he gets rid of the ball fast and has tremendous pocket awareness. That is his game in a nutshell. I think he gets the "Manning face" because he knows his limitations and he can't do anything about it but tries to think of a way to overcome his own limitations.

Hey, now bugatti is playing Dr Phil too. :bunny:

Hey, now bugatti is playing Dr Phil too. :bunny:

I am the Dr. Phil of BGP.

Richard Sherman and the Seahawks said that they knew what Manning was doing from film study and watching his eyes. They said if he would've changed things up, just a little, they could've been exposed....:idunno:

The way Denver's OLine was completely dominated, I don't think any other pocket passing QB could have done much better. I believe Brady and Manning both have difficulty against physical defenses because they depend too much upon the passing game for yardage.

 

For the sake of Jim's argument they become minimized if Manning is able to win. Even though both games were at home, I thought Manning had a high degree of difficulty in who he was playing the first two rounds of the playoffs. The Chargers are a division foe who had just beaten the Broncos at home and play them better than anyone and we all know the history against the Pats. If anything it shows he did adjust from the first games he played them during the regular season so I am bit confused in that sense.

 

With that said, I do not fully discredit everything Jim says here. Manning is a "teeth-clencher" as Cowherd said a few weeks ago. I do disagree that it is ego related and that he has no clue why some things may not work. Manning is incredibly cerebral but very limited in his physical tools. His arm strength is not all that great - never has been - and he does throw "ducks" and will be the first to admit as such. To compensate he anticipates where receivers will be with precision. He is not a mobile guy, yet he is one of the least sacked QBs each season because he gets rid of the ball fast and has tremendous pocket awareness. That is his game in a nutshell. I think he gets the "Manning face" because he knows his limitations and he can't do anything about it but tries to think of a way to overcome his own limitations.

 

I agree with both of these posts and will add one more factor that is probably the most crucial one in the Denver Seattle matchup - Seattle's defensive backs took away the quick routes. When Manning had trouble finding the quick pass, that gave Seattle's d-line enough time to get pressure on Manning. Seattle's d-line sold out on the pass rush all day and got away with it because the backers and DB's were too fast for Denver to make it hurt.

 

All that being said, Manning set a Super Bowl record for completions (34-49) and threw for 280 yards. Most of that came with Seattle knowing he was throwing the ball. Manning had one bad pass - the INT he overthrew the receiver on. There isn't a QB in NFL history that could have won that Super Bowl for Denver. They were overmatched at every position except one - QB.