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If Chuck Smith applies to Highlands.......

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I don't see the word broken in my post anywhere and think you are kind of missing the point of what I was saying.

 

It isn't about getting to the top, it's staying on top when others do the things you were doing to make you successful. Take Collins starting to platoon this year as an example. For so long, that was a competitive advantage that Highlands was one of the few schools in the class to enjoy. Now, someone does it this year and beats them at their own game. Think other schools didn't take notes of what Collins did?

 

When others start emulating what you've done and you are risking falling into "group-think" by only hiring from within and maintaining a traditional way of doing things, you may fall behind.

 

Since growth and production on these types of curves usually occurs exponentially, you can risk falling way behind once things pass you by.

 

For an example of the "exponential" growth and production I'm talking about, think of it like this: for a long time, the Olympic high jump was done in a way where people ran straight at the bar and did a "Superman" dive over it. There might have been some incremental gains on the world records. Then there was a scissor kick that started to shatter those records. More incremental gains once everyone started to catch on. Then along comes Fosbury and the "Fosbury Flop" that most everyone uses today. The scissor kick records are shattered and everyone is catching up.

 

When you ONLY hire from within, you would be behind these curves unless the Superman, Scissor kick, and Fosbury innovators were all already in your system.

 

They had six years on top. It has been no big secret about platooning at Highlands. It's just one game they lost to a better team on that day. Several years back HHS lost to a very good Ryle team, it wasn't the end of the world when that happened, and it's not the end of the world now.

 

As been said several times before, it's not just about the coaches and players. Fort Thomas is a tight knit community and it takes the "perfect fit" in ALL ASPECTS at the school AND IN THE COMMUNITY.

 

A lot of teams have been taking notes on what Highlands have been doing since 2009, that's when HHS started platooning. A special group of talented players from Collins pulled off the upset, congrats to them. I hope HHS and Collins meet every year, it could be a great rivalry. Take a look in the record books and tell me who is catching up. One upset game in four years? Really? Six state titles in a row, must be some slow learners out there.

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Was it Chuck Smith that said , "we out Highland Highlands"?

 

If it was, he only got to say it one time. :thumb: If he is the next coach at HHS, do you think he might schedule games and then back out? :popcorn:

They had six years on top. It has been no big secret about platooning at Highlands. It's just one game they lost to a better team on that day. Several years back HHS lost to a very good Ryle team, it wasn't the end of the world when that happened, and it's not the end of the world now.

 

As been said several times before, it's not just about the coaches and players. Fort Thomas is a tight knit community and it takes the "perfect fit" in ALL ASPECTS at the school AND IN THE COMMUNITY.

 

A lot of teams have been taking notes on what Highlands have been doing since 2009, that's when HHS started platooning. A special group of talented players from Collins pulled off the upset, congrats to them. I hope HHS and Collins meet every year, it could be a great rivalry. Take a look in the record books and tell me who is catching up. One upset game in four years? Really? Six state titles in a row, must be some slow learners out there.

 

Slow learner? :lol2:

 

You understand Mueller isn't the coach anymore now, right? He's the guy responsible for those streaks you talk about. See how hard it is for the next guy to follow the legend, watch the heat get turned up on him when he gets upset.

 

You understand that Chuck Smith, while at Boyle County, put a 44-10 BEATDOWN on Highlands in the 4A finals. This is the man who conquered the "King" (at least from what you read on here).

 

If I'm someone who has to compete with Highlands on a yearly basis, I'd rather them keep it in house and keep promoting from within than hire Chuck Smith. That's just me though.

 

Oh yea... Since Collins has been in existence, don't they have a 1-1 split in title games with Highlands?

How did Boyle County do things? You lost me there.
No need to feel defensive. I mean that Boyle had/has a system and Highlands has one. I don't think the powers that be in Ft. Thomas will see any need to switch from the current one to that which Chuck Smith might bring in from Boyle County.
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If it was, he only got to say it one time. :thumb: If he is the next coach at HHS, do you think he might schedule games and then back out? :popcorn:

 

Twice. Not once. Twice.

 

When did Chuck do that? I don't remember him backing out of any games.

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No need to feel defensive. I mean that Boyle had/has a system and Highlands has one. I don't think the powers that be in Ft. Thomas will see any need to switch from the current one to that which Chuck Smith might bring in from Boyle County.

 

Not being defensive at all. I didn't understand your comment. Why wouldn't any program want to use a proven system that works? How do you know Chuck would change the system? Suppose he did change things up, based on what he did at Boyle I think it is possible that with what he would have at Highlands from the start compared with what he started with at Boyle he would end up being the best coach ever at Highlands.

Not being defensive at all. I didn't understand your comment. Why wouldn't any program want to use a proven system that works? How do you know Chuck would change the system? Suppose he did change things up, based on what he did at Boyle I think it is possible that with what he would have at Highlands from the start compared with what he started with at Boyle he would end up being the best coach ever at Highlands.

 

Ok let's not get too far ahead of yourself. Best ever? Maybe, maybe not. He would be in the same company of a pretty darn good football coach(es). Homer Rice!

 

People tend to forget that Homer coached at Highlands and was very successful way before the state started to recognize State Championships. I think based on Homer's success at all 3 levels of football, he would have to get the nod as best ever. That has been put to rest a long time ago by even the most educated Highlands fans. Dale Mueller is a close 2nd but I think it's going to be very hard for anyone to match what Homer did in his time of teaching the game of Football. Do you disagree?

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Ok let's not get too far ahead of yourself. Best ever? Maybe, maybe not. He would be in the same company of a pretty darn good football coach(es). Homer Rice!

 

People tend to forget that Homer coached at Highlands and was very successful way before the state started to recognize State Championships. I think based on Homer's success at all 3 levels of football, he would have to get the nod as best ever. That has been put to rest a long time ago by even the most educated Highlands fans. Dale Mueller is a close 2nd but I think it's going to be very hard for anyone to match what Homer did in his time of teaching the game of Football. Do you disagree?

 

 

I don't know who Homer Rice is. I just know to never say never.

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Ok let's not get too far ahead of yourself. Best ever? Maybe, maybe not. He would be in the same company of a pretty darn good football coach(es). Homer Rice!

 

People tend to forget that Homer coached at Highlands and was very successful way before the state started to recognize State Championships. I think based on Homer's success at all 3 levels of football, he would have to get the nod as best ever. That has been put to rest a long time ago by even the most educated Highlands fans. Dale Mueller is a close 2nd but I think it's going to be very hard for anyone to match what Homer did in his time of teaching the game of Football. Do you disagree?

 

All I am saying is that Chuck started from the bottom at Boyle County. The program was in shambles when he took over. The band was more important than the football team took over. The program is where it is at in 2014 because of Chuck Smith. He built the Boyle County brand. He made it relevant. And he did that from scratch. For him to be able to take over a program like Highlands IMO he would hit the ground running. He wouldn't have to build anything. Everything is already in place. Didn't Dale step up his game and re-invent himself and the program after Chuck got off to a 2-0 start against him?

Slow learner? :lol2:

 

You understand Mueller isn't the coach anymore now, right? He's the guy responsible for those streaks you talk about. See how hard it is for the next guy to follow the legend, watch the heat get turned up on him when he gets upset.

 

You understand that Chuck Smith, while at Boyle County, put a 44-10 BEATDOWN on Highlands in the 4A finals. This is the man who conquered the "King" (at least from what you read on here).

 

If I'm someone who has to compete with Highlands on a yearly basis, I'd rather them keep it in house and keep promoting from within than hire Chuck Smith. That's just me though.

 

Oh yea... Since Collins has been in existence, don't they have a 1-1 split in title games with Highlands?

Collins has a 1-1 split with HHS, but Coach Weinrich has a perfect record as a head coach against Collins in state title games, just sayin!

I don't know who Homer Rice is. I just know to never say never.

 

You might want to Google his name..:thumb:

Slow learner? :lol2:

 

You understand Mueller isn't the coach anymore now, right? He's the guy responsible for those streaks you talk about. See how hard it is for the next guy to follow the legend, watch the heat get turned up on him when he gets upset.

 

You understand that Chuck Smith, while at Boyle County, put a 44-10 BEATDOWN on Highlands in the 4A finals. This is the man who conquered the "King" (at least from what you read on here).

 

If I'm someone who has to compete with Highlands on a yearly basis, I'd rather them keep it in house and keep promoting from within than hire Chuck Smith. That's just me though.

 

Oh yea... Since Collins has been in existence, don't they have a 1-1 split in title games with Highlands?

 

You understand that was ONE GAME? :lol2:

 

Chuck Smith is just another very good coach in the Commonwealth of KY, I'll leave it at that.

You understand that was ONE GAME? :lol2:

 

Chuck Smith is just another very good coach in the Commonwealth of KY, I'll leave it at that.

 

Understatement of the decade?

All I am saying is that Chuck started from the bottom at Boyle County. The program was in shambles when he took over. The band was more important than the football team took over. The program is where it is at in 2014 because of Chuck Smith. He built the Boyle County brand. He made it relevant. And he did that from scratch. For him to be able to take over a program like Highlands IMO he would hit the ground running. He wouldn't have to build anything. Everything is already in place. Didn't Dale step up his game and re-invent himself and the program after Chuck got off to a 2-0 start against him?

 

In your opinion, is Smith a better coach than French?

Was it Chuck Smith that said , "we out Highland Highlands"?

 

Actually the quote was from Dale about HHS "out Boyle county Boyle County."

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