You'd be surprised at how little weight cutting goes on, especially at the heavier weights. From my experience, a lot of the cutting goes on at smaller weights, and even that isn't as much as you would think.

 

I just had a lot of friends that wrestled down in weight class. Regardless they're not gaining any weight and for lineman that certainly plays a part in size and strength especially over the course of 2-3 years.

Almost impossible when you have to play a college team for the title.

 

Great excuse.

I am going to add another angle to this discussion. SK has done a very good job building the program and getting kids on the roster. I see next year as a big year for SK. The challenge ... who is their next QB? Are they going to put Racke in at QB as a sophomore? I assume yes. The success SK has experienced is because of the QB's - Lawrence and Kuntz. SK always has kids with size. They usually have enough players with speed to handle the skill positions adequately. It all comes down to the QB. If Racke can step in and get it done, then SK should continue their successful run.

 

To get over the top though, I agree with NKY Bandit above ... they need to find/develop more high quality athletes, especially at the skill positions. I always feel like they have solid guys but no one that you call "stud". I don't know how they do that, but the teams they are trying to catch have those guys, and they don't IMO. They need another "Miles Simpson like" or two. X and T have those guys every year.

 

Does Trinity have D1 kids every year? Really? When Trinity beat SK in 2008, their RB was a terrific 5-5 155 kid, Tim Phillips. Tim lucked out that he went to a camp at Central Michigan U the previous summer and won a scholarship there. No other offers. Big break because he wanted to be an engineer & that was allowed by the program. Didn't star at CMU but was a pretty good situation player. Only other D1 kid for Trinity in 2008 was LB Jordan Whiting, who had an indifferent career at his dream school, Ohio State. That is about it for Trinity's D1 talent in 2008. The problem with SK then was not commitment or effort but numbers. Miles and many others had to go both ways. Trinity's well-coached well-conditioned high schoolers will just wear you down. In 2010, Trinity's state champions did not have a single D1 player, though one preferred walkon, who I don't think got anywhere at UK. Sad, great kid. The 2010 Rocks were great high school players with great coaches. I am afraid that's the end of it. The talent is there at SK and will come out. Coach Marksberry has created a tradition.

From what I have seen from SK and the youth program they are going in the right direction. They have a wonderful field house for off season workouts a very nice facility which really helps the young men work hard and become better players. The team is very big and fast this season. Don't knock SK cause UKfan made you mad. They are heading in the right direction and fast.

Does Trinity have D1 kids every year? Really? When Trinity beat SK in 2008, their RB was a terrific 5-5 155 kid, Tim Phillips. Tim lucked out that he went to a camp at Central Michigan U the previous summer and won a scholarship there. No other offers. Big break because he wanted to be an engineer & that was allowed by the program. Didn't star at CMU but was a pretty good situation player. Only other D1 kid for Trinity in 2008 was LB Jordan Whiting, who had an indifferent career at his dream school, Ohio State. That is about it for Trinity's D1 talent in 2008. The problem with SK then was not commitment or effort but numbers. Miles and many others had to go both ways. Trinity's well-coached well-conditioned high schoolers will just wear you down. In 2010, Trinity's state champions did not have a single D1 player, though one preferred walkon, who I don't think got anywhere at UK. Sad, great kid. The 2010 Rocks were great high school players with great coaches. I am afraid that's the end of it. The talent is there at SK and will come out. Coach Marksberry has created a tradition.

 

Good info! Thanks for posting and welcome to BGP.

Dont disagree, but one could argue Beechwood is fairing about the same as SK in the recent past, just saying.

 

Good point...but programs are still far apart but i will give you that.

hmmmm heres a stat for you.

 

State Championship appearances since 2008

 

SK=1

Beechwood = 1

 

Fair enough. Here are some Simon Kenton stats for you:

 

2011 .... 2-9 (lost to Beechwood 28-0)

2004 .... 2-8

2003 .... 1-9

2002 .... 3-7 (lost to Beechwood 24-20)

2001 .... 5-6 (lost to Beechwood 14-12)

 

Just to help you out when comparing programs plantman.

 

 

I apologize to the other SK fans for posting this. I like what the Pioneers are building and Marksberry has certainly brought them from the depths to get where they are today. I appreciate all the hard work that has turned the program into the winner it is today.

Edited September 6, 201313 yr by Voice of Reason

 

Fair enough. Here are some Simon Kenton stats for you:

 

2009 .... 2-9 (lost to Beechwood 28-0)

2004 .... 2-8

2003 .... 1-9

2002 .... 3-7 (lost to Beechwood 24-20)

2001 .... 5-6 (lost to Beechwood 14-12)

 

Just to help you out when comparing programs plantman.

 

I apologize to the other SK fans for posting this. I like what the Pioneers are building and Marksberry has certainly brought them from the depths to get where they are today. I appreciate all the hard work that has turned the program into the winner it is today.

 

 

2009 can't be right. That was the year they lost to St. X in the semifinals in a heck of a game. I am sadly pretty sure SK would have beaten Trinity that year had they made the title game.

2009 can't be right. That was the year they lost to St. X in the semifinals in a heck of a game. I am sadly pretty sure SK would have beaten Trinity that year had they made the title game.

 

Correct. It was 2011. Fixed it. Thanks.

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No, but with as much talent as they have coming thru the hallways, SK should be a dominate team every year

I believe Simon Kenton is tied for fourth in 6a playoff wins over the last 4 years. Behind Trinity, X, and Scott co.

I believe Simon Kenton is tied for fourth in 6a playoff wins over the last 4 years. Behind Trinity, X, and Scott co.

 

I'm not trying to be a jerk by saying this, but I truly find it hard to find even another good 6A school in the entire state outside of the 3 you mentioned. And if you do include Scott Co, remember they got beat bad by HHS. So I still put them on the borderline. My point is, it doesn't make you good by saying you made it this far or that far when the teams you're beating to get there aren't any good anyway! You're just the best of a bunch of bad teams. Just stating my opinion and being honest.

I believe Simon Kenton is tied for fourth in 6a playoff wins over the last 4 years. Behind Trinity, X, and Scott co.

 

thanks for making my point for me. In reality, SK would have been in the 'mythical' 6A public school championship 4 of the past 5 years, winning atleast 2.

That's your problem RCC9, not mine. I am not a SK fan, I'm from Lexington and I remember back in Marksberry's early years teams would regularly put running clocks on them. I am stating facts. Simon Kenton has been the #4 program in 6a the last 4 years.