Overreaction. Big time. Sure he doesn't get it and never will but to throw him in jail because she didn't like the interaction between a client and a lawyer is lunacy.

 

And she's so blind she can't drive. That's just awesome. And why is she asking him if he appreciated how good of a job his lawyer did anyways?

Overreaction. Big time. Sure he doesn't get it and never will but to throw him in jail because she didn't like the interaction between a client and a lawyer is lunacy.

 

And she's so blind she can't drive. That's just awesome. And why is she asking him if he appreciated how good of a job his lawyer did anyways?

 

A. Agreed - overreaction. She didn't like it that people were laughing in her courtroom.

 

2. Agreed.

 

D. My understanding is that this is common with plea deals. Just verifying that you as the defendant are fully aware of the plea deal so you can't come back later and say "I didn't agree to that."

Lester Munson, ESPN's "Legal Expert" agrees with me. Said judge overreacted and it was his opinion that if it wasn't for the fact that it was televised, nothing would've happened.

She totally overreacted and played the power game. Its just like when a kid sits in the classroom and cracks a joke or something and everyone laughs. It shows up the teacher and in this case it showed up the Judge. I cant blame her but I think if it wasnt televised then she would have just ripped into him and the courtroom. room

 

The people in the courtroom are to really blame for getting him tossed. If they dont laugh at his harmless tap including the officer then he gets the plea Deal. JMO

Lester Munson, ESPN's "Legal Expert" agrees with me. Said judge overreacted and it was his opinion that if it wasn't for the fact that it was televised, nothing would've happened.

Potentially not. But it is still just Chad not being able to help himself from acting out in a serious situation. I also thought the dialogue in the interview was interesting in that Munson was surprised Chad was not in a suit and tie instead of casual clothes. Little things like that may not matter to some, but to some authority figures - especially those with the power to send you to prison - it shows a sign of disrespect. Couple that with his past antics and the butt slap, he set himself up for it. It is kind of like Pacman. You can't put yourself in those type situations and give additional ammo for someone to come back at you. Chad, being Chad, simply could not help himself and helped set the bear trap.

Lester Munson, ESPN's "Legal Expert" agrees with me. Said judge overreacted and it was his opinion that if it wasn't for the fact that it was televised, nothing would've happened.

 

I listened to his interview on Mike and Mike as well and it sounded like the more he talked, the more he didn't really have as strong a conviction about over-reaction.

 

The issues that were raised on the show were important IMO.

 

1. Chad Johnson shows up in shirt sleeves and no tie. While Miami is a more "laid back" place than most, to walk into a court of law that way is unprofessional and reveals too much "laize-faire" attitude. He has violated his parole. A Sentence this judge gave him. His violation of her sentence already places a chip on her shoulder because he has disrespected her already.

 

2. Add to the above that he mistakes a common phrase/question: "Are you happy with counsel?" and believes it is time for locker room jockularity.

 

This is what flies all over the judge IMO. She takes it as more "disrespect" of the court and her. He is "lucky" to be given a plea agreement that keeps him out of jail. He should be humble before the judge (regardless of who the judge happens to be) because this judge holds his future in her hands. Instead he relaxes and becomes Ocho-Cinco.

 

I don't have a problem. We all know he won't serve all 30 days but he's just another prime example of star athlete still thinking that everything is a game and he's able to get away on his talent. Welcome to the real world Chad.

A. Agreed - overreaction. She didn't like it that people were laughing in her courtroom.

 

2. Agreed.

 

D. My understanding is that this is common with plea deals. Just verifying that you as the defendant are fully aware of the plea deal so you can't come back later and say "I didn't agree to that."

 

It's one thing to verify that you are aware of the plea deal. She practically did a commercial for the lawyer.

I listened to his interview on Mike and Mike as well and it sounded like the more he talked, the more he didn't really have as strong a conviction about over-reaction.

 

The issues that were raised on the show were important IMO.

 

1. Chad Johnson shows up in shirt sleeves and no tie. While Miami is a more "laid back" place than most, to walk into a court of law that way is unprofessional and reveals too much "laize-faire" attitude. He has violated his parole. A Sentence this judge gave him. His violation of her sentence already places a chip on her shoulder because he has disrespected her already.

 

2. Add to the above that he mistakes a common phrase/question: "Are you happy with counsel?" and believes it is time for locker room jockularity.

 

This is what flies all over the judge IMO. She takes it as more "disrespect" of the court and her. He is "lucky" to be given a plea agreement that keeps him out of jail. He should be humble before the judge (regardless of who the judge happens to be) because this judge holds his future in her hands. Instead he relaxes and becomes Ocho-Cinco.

 

I don't have a problem. We all know he won't serve all 30 days but he's just another prime example of star athlete still thinking that everything is a game and he's able to get away on his talent. Welcome to the real world Chad.

 

Respectfully disagree. Plea deals like this are worked out daily with regular folk in similar situations. While I wouldn't butt slap my attorney while still in court I would at least smile hard if a judge gave my lawyer a free commercial like she did for a job well done. And she couldn't even see the butt slap. She just heard laughing. Way too sensitive IMO.

 

 

Power. Trip.

I fail to see where everyone keeps getting the "he acted out" idea. THE JUDGE told him he better thank his attorney and tell him what a great job he did. So Chad in the way that he knows best did what the judge instructed.

 

If he jumps into his arms, call it acting out. If he bear hugs his attorney and spins him in a circle, call it acting out. A butt tap and a "good job", don't call that acting out.

Respectfully disagree. Plea deals like this are worked out daily with regular folk in similar situations. While I wouldn't butt slap my attorney while still in court I would at least smile hard if a judge gave my lawyer a free commercial like she did for a job well done. And she couldn't even see the butt slap. She just heard laughing. Way too sensitive IMO.

 

 

Power. Trip.

 

Power Trip. Probably. But she has the power. Not pretend power on a field. Power in the Court Room. Again Purple, I think it's much more than a pat on the butt. She's mad that he never registered for his probation and "Blew off" her authority prior to this. I'm not excusing it, but maybe it let's him know that he's not as big as he believes.

 

I mean, it's not like we're dealing with OJ here. :thumb:

I fail to see where everyone keeps getting the "he acted out" idea. THE JUDGE told him he better thank his attorney and tell him what a great job he did. So Chad in the way that he knows best did what the judge instructed.

 

If he jumps into his arms, call it acting out. If he bear hugs his attorney and spins him in a circle, call it acting out. A butt tap and a "good job", don't call that acting out.

 

When you put it together like that, you could call that courtroom entrapment. She tells him to say good job to his attorney and then nails him for saying good job the way he has for the majority of his life. I agree that it was irreverant and stupid, but the judge set him up, albeit it unintentionally.

So for you all saying that he said "Thanks" the way he always has, how you would feel about him telling your daughter thank you that way?

 

Oh, that's inappropriate? Then it's inappropriate in every day society and DEFINITELY in a court room, as well.

Would you thank your boss that way? No... It's not an appropriate way to act in a courtroom, period. Maybe this will teach him a lesson.

Would you thank your boss that way? No... It's not an appropriate way to act in a courtroom, period. Maybe this will teach him a lesson.

 

When did an attorney become his client's boss? If anything, Chad is his boss.

So for you all saying that he said "Thanks" the way he always has, how you would feel about him telling your daughter thank you that way?

 

Oh, that's inappropriate? Then it's inappropriate in every day society and DEFINITELY in a court room, as well.

 

If his attorney was a chick, I'd probably agree with you, but it wasn't. It's a dude. Would you think it inappropriate if it were your son? I know I wouldn't bat an eye.