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Simon Kenton's Cam Racke kicked off of and then reinstated to the Simon Frosh Team

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You mean like Dixie?:D

 

Elaborate please. I really don't follow Boy's BB. Are you implying that Dixie has open enrollment students in their program? If you are, open enrollment is coming to an end in Kenton County. Simon Kenton is already closed enrollment.

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Elaborate please. I really don't follow Boy's BB. Are you implying that Dixie has open enrollment students in their program? If you are, open enrollment is coming to an end in Kenton County. Simon Kenton is already closed enrollment.

 

 

No. Just joking with you. I took your post to be in regards to CCH "marketing themselves" but joked that you meant Dixie since... Never mind.

I think it's pretty weak. My kid is in 7th grade and currently lives with his mother and plays for the 7th and 8th grade teams. There is a strong possibility he'll be moving in with me and switching schools next year and this is known at his school as well. I wish, I repeat, I wish they would try to take that out on my kid and not allow him to play with the 8th grade team. I'll admit that my situation is likely different than this situation but if your are going to ask a middle schooler to play up and then rescind it because he attended an Open House at another school then you need to re-evaluate who you are asking up and why but you should still honor that commitment. We require our kids to honor commitmens. We should expect no less from adults.

 

 

Apples to oranges in my opinion as you are comparing the ability to play up one year on a middle school team to having the opportunity to play up two levels and play freshmen and JV ball at the high school level.

 

He is still getting the opportunity to play up on the freshmen which does not happen at the bigger school level in Northern Kentucky that often. I think the staff is basically saying that his skill level has earned him the opportunity to play up one level but his commitment level will not allow them to take away the opportunity from another high school level athlete to work out, practice and develop with the JV & Varsity teams.

 

If my info is correct they have not rescinded any offer to play up. He can play up on the freshmen team.

 

Do you think the parents called Coach Steiner and told him about their plans to attend the open house? Did they tell the staff that they were still 100% committed to SK but the student athlete just wanted to hang with his AAU team at an open house for another school? Or did the staff find out thru the grapevine that a "member" of the team/family just happened to be at the open house for another school?

 

Lot of variables we don't know about the families communication with the staff prior to attending the open house.

 

Moving up a student athlete at this level is a big deal. These kids are typically in your camps from a very early age and are integrated into your culture and given opportunities that other kids don't get as far as access to your program. So when a kid does attend an open house for another school it is a big deal.

There is no obligation to tell a coach that you're going to an open house.

Apples to oranges in my opinion as you are comparing the ability to play up one year on a middle school team to having the opportunity to play up two levels and play freshmen and JV ball at the high school level.

 

He is still getting the opportunity to play up on the freshmen which does not happen at the bigger school level in Northern Kentucky that often. I think the staff is basically saying that his skill level has earned him the opportunity to play up one level but his commitment level will not allow them to take away the opportunity from another high school level athlete to work out, practice and develop with the JV & Varsity teams.

 

If my info is correct they have not rescinded any offer to play up. He can play up on the freshmen team.

 

Do you think the parents called Coach Steiner and told him about their plans to attend the open house? Did they tell the staff that they were still 100% committed to SK but the student athlete just wanted to hang with his AAU team at an open house for another school? Or did the staff find out thru the grapevine that a "member" of the team/family just happened to be at the open house for another school?

 

Lot of variables we don't know about the families communication with the staff prior to attending the open house.

 

Moving up a student athlete at this level is a big deal. These kids are typically in your camps from a very early age and are integrated into your culture and given opportunities that other kids don't get as far as access to your program. So when a kid does attend an open house for another school it is a big deal.

 

Playing up is playing up. Common sense says a 7th grader playing a ton of time with the 8th grade team will likely have the same opportunity to play up as an 8th grader. If my son doesn't move in with me next year that possibility will still remain the following year. I'd hope he wouldn't be treated any differently.

Do you think the parents called Coach Steiner and told him about their plans to attend the open house? Did they tell the staff that they were still 100% committed to SK but the student athlete just wanted to hang with his AAU team at an open house for another school? Or did the staff find out thru the grapevine that a "member" of the team/family just happened to be at the open house for another school?

 

At no point should they feel obligated to do so!!

 

It's an open house, not a 'signing' or 'commitment' party!

There is no obligation to tell a coach that you're going to an open house.

 

No obligation at all but I would bet that moving up this student athlete has been discussed with the family and in the planning stages for a couple of years. The staff has invested extra time and provided additional opportunites for the student athlete that were available because they recognized he has the ability to be a very good player in their program.

 

You don't have the obligation to tell your boss you are job hunting but if he finds your resume in the fax machine you might lose some of the privileges and good will you have built up with that boss.

 

Not to continue to beat that dead horse but he is still getting the opportunity/privilege to play up on the freshmen team.

He played on the freshman team last year as a 7th grader. Not sure if he dressed jv or played jv last year.

No obligation at all but I would bet that moving up this student athlete has been discussed with the family and in the planning stages for a couple of years. The staff has invested extra time and provided additional opportunites for the student athlete that were available because they recognized he has the ability to be a very good player in their program.

 

You don't have the obligation to tell your boss you are job hunting but if he finds your resume in the fax machine you might lose some of the privileges and good will you have built up with that boss.

 

Not to continue to beat that dead horse but he is still getting the opportunity/privilege to play up on the freshmen team.

 

I wonder what the parents of the kids who were cut are thinking?

Just to be clear, is the problem:

 

- Middle School kids on a high school team?

 

- The fact that the kid might end up at another high school?

 

- Or both?

Just to be clear, is the problem:

 

- Middle School kids on a high school team?

 

- The fact that the kid might end up at another high school?

 

- Or both?

 

The combination of both.

Just to be clear, is the problem:

 

- Middle School kids on a high school team?

 

- The fact that the kid might end up at another high school?

 

- Or both?

 

If this is true the obvious answer is the coach has a problem with him POTENTIALLY going to a different high school.

The combination of both.

 

Perfect example then, of why middle school kids should stay in middle school and not play up to High School. Unless they are attending a small school where the enrollment demands it, the cons outweight the pros everytime.

-risk of injury

-risk of alienating the class of teammates they are playing up to by cutting into time- or outright replacing- someone else in HS

-risk of alienating the parents for the same reason above

-risk that after all is said and done- the player goes elsewhere

I wonder what the parents of the kids who were cut are thinking?

 

Apparently the same thing they were thinking last year when the kid apparently played freshman ball at SK.

 

And not to be mean but in basketball if you get cut in high school, there's a reason you got cut and most kids have figured out by the 9th grade what kind of chance they have to play in high school.

Just to be clear, is the problem:

 

- Middle School kids on a high school team?

 

- The fact that the kid might end up at another high school?

 

- Or both?

 

Zero problem with middle schoolers playing up.

 

However, I do believe that playing up is a privilege and coaches have the right to move a student athlete back if they feel that the student athlete may not be 100 % committed to their program.

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