November 19, 201213 yr Isn't his "opinion" directly tied to his profession? Point is GT is supposed to be connected, he made some bold statements and has had to back peddle ever since. It all comes back to no one really knows anything the people involved don't want you to know... I guess we just read the info differently. To each his own. GT has been right more than wrong in stuff like this. I welcome any of his info and it will always maintain credibility with me.
November 19, 201213 yr Nope. One is mutually exclusive from the other until I start getting bills paid from my contributions here. That isn't going to happen, so take it or leave it... I'll take it... but when you're wrong expect criticism, that's how the world works. When you put it out there expect to be judged on it. If you don't want to be told you got an ugly baby don't put it in the pageant. Bottom line, if UK has contacted Jones and made an offer (who knows if they did or didn't) then there is interest from both parties. It may not be on the same level but there is interest...
November 19, 201213 yr I guess we just read the info differently. To each his own. GT has been right more than wrong in stuff like this. I welcome any of his info and it will always maintain credibility with me. I welcome his info as well, always have. I've been on this board long enough to know he says what he thinks and so do I. If Jones ends up at UK then that's a kick to his groin... No other way to put it. IMO the flirtation between UK and Jones has already debunked his opinion somewhat.
November 19, 201213 yr Jones may not have interest in UK but he would certainly have interest in $16,000,000. That's a bunch of zeros you know.
November 19, 201213 yr Let me first say I have no idea what is true about UK and Butch Jones but if UK made an offer, which has been denied, I doubt they would have done so prior to an interview.
November 19, 201213 yr If Kentucky doesn't get Jones or Smart then they may have to go smaller and start taking calls from Coaches that Kentucky wouldn't have any interest in.
November 19, 201213 yr If Kentucky doesn't get Jones or Smart then they may have to go smaller and start taking calls from Coaches that Kentucky wouldn't have any interest in. Or fall back on a Fulmer or Cutcliffe type much like they did with Rich Brooks.
November 19, 201213 yr I'll take it... but when you're wrong expect criticism, that's how the world works. When you put it out there expect to be judged on it. If you don't want to be told you got an ugly baby don't put it in the pageant. Bottom line, if UK has contacted Jones and made an offer (who knows if they did or didn't) then there is interest from both parties. It may not be on the same level but there is interest... I don't think Jones will take the UK job, and I still hold very firm in that. That is both opinion and info relayed to me by multiple sources that are connected at very high levels. His agent taking calls from UK, or his agent calling UK does not change any portion of that statement. Thinking otherwise is either not wanting to or simply not understanding how coaching searches work. At this point it is Jones' agent doing his job regardless of the end result. No different than last year when Mike Thomas did everything in his power to get Jones to Illinois and the end result was a contract extension at UC. He had zero interest in the Illini job, and was never going to take it. That didn't stop their pursuit for weeks. Bottom line, I don't think Jones is interested in taking the UK job. I do think interest from UK is good for him until they either move on or things change drastically from where they stand right now...
November 19, 201213 yr I don't think Jones will take the UK job, and I still hold very firm in that. That is both opinion and info relayed to me by multiple sources that are connected at very high levels. His agent taking calls from UK, or his agent calling UK does not change any portion of that statement. Thinking otherwise is either not wanting to or simply not understanding how coaching searches work. At this point it is Jones' agent doing his job regardless of the end result. No different than last year when Mike Thomas did everything in his power to get Jones to Illinois and the end result was a contract extension at UC. He had zero interest in the Illini job, and was never going to take it. That didn't stop their pursuit for weeks. Bottom line, I don't think Jones is interested in taking the UK job. I do think interest from UK is good for him until they either move on or things change drastically from where they stand right now... Got it... I argue there's mutual interest... One would have to assume you're right.
November 19, 201213 yr I welcome his info as well, always have. I've been on this board long enough to know he says what he thinks and so do I. If Jones ends up at UK then that's a kick to his groin... No other way to put it. IMO the flirtation between UK and Jones has already debunked his opinion somewhat. If Jones ends up at UK and gets a huge raise, good for him. My opinion is that it is a horrible move no matter the financial gain. There are going to be plenty of those out there for him if he so desires that don't include taking on the issues involved with the UK job. His agents job is to get his client the best situation possible. Jumping from UC to UK and dealing with similar issues on a larger scale is not conducive to career growth. However, getting his client mentioned heavily on the first SEC job available is good for business. That's just how the process works...
November 19, 201213 yr Because of the issues mentioned by GT, I believe UK ends up with a Fulmer/Cutcliffe type coach and the fan base start blaming Barnhart. I'm continually amazed how many people just don't understand how unatractive the UK coaching position is.
November 19, 201213 yr It would not be a good move for Jones, IMO. What other jobs are out there that would interest him or shall I say what schools that will have openings will be interested in him? The Big East is essentially going to be put in the grave football wise, if the dominoes fall and Maryland and Rutgers bolt to the Big 10 and UConn to the ACC. Could he be reading the tea leaves and be thinking that the time to get out is now?
November 19, 201213 yr If Jones ends up at UK and gets a huge raise, good for him. My opinion is that it is a horrible move no matter the financial gain. There are going to be plenty of those out there for him if he so desires that don't include taking on the issues involved with the UK job. His agents job is to get his client the best situation possible. Jumping from UC to UK and dealing with similar issues on a larger scale is not conducive to career growth. However, getting his client mentioned heavily on the first SEC job available is good for business. That's just how the process works... I agree with the exposure part. He's got some "free air time" if nothing else.
November 19, 201213 yr It would not be a good move for Jones, IMO. What other jobs are out there that would interest him or shall I say what schools that will have openings will be interested in him? The Big East is essentially going to be put in the grave football wise, if the dominoes fall and Maryland and Rutgers bolt to the Big 10 and UConn to the ACC. Could he be reading the tea leaves and be thinking that the time to get out is now? You just said it wouldn't be a good move for Jones. What makes you think he would think it would be a good move? :lol:
November 19, 201213 yr I hope Kentucky doesn't get Fulmer. If we do we will be in the same boat we were with Joker. I did hear that Cutcliffe was out of the mix.
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