October 13, 201213 yr Watched a little of this one and have to agree with him and others who say Stanford got ripped off big time. Notre Dame being good is one thing but the refs making them that is wrong.
October 14, 201213 yr Did his left elbow hit the ground just as began stretching the ball over the goal line?
October 14, 201213 yr Watched a little of this one and have to agree with him and others who say Stanford got ripped off big time. Notre Dame being good is one thing but the refs making them that is wrong. Once again how is it the wrong call? Any football game you watch, you will see that the side refs come running in when they view the play as being over. The ref started running in when Notre Dame did have his forward progress stopped. He only moved forward after Notre Dame started to let go. Its the same as when a team has a pile moving backwards and then all of a sudden a guy spins out, but then the refs blow their whistle saying forward progress was stopped. I know I agree the ball crossed the plain, but the ref running in shows that he viewed the guys forward progress stopped when Notre Dame had him.
October 14, 201213 yr Whistle never blew The guy in the booth did not have the nads to make the right call
October 14, 201213 yr Whistle never blew The guy in the booth did not have the nads to make the right call It does not matter, the ref on the side viewed it as forward progress being stopped. A ref only runs in when they view the play as being over. As I said its the same as a team who is driving a guy back, and then the guy spins out and the refs blow their whistles then saying his forward progress was stopped. When it comes to forward progress they come running in when they view it as stopped even before they blow the whistle. Which the players could even see the ref running in short of the goal line, and that is when they guy finally started to move forward once they let go.
October 14, 201213 yr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8GP6Dvz5Og You make the call... Its not about if he made it over. No doubt he crossed the plain with the ball, that is why you should show the full plain. It is about forward momentum being stopped, which the ref viewed it as it was when he came running in. Once a ref views feels like a players forward momentum being stopped, nothing else matters after that. That is why it was not a touchdown, its not that they viewed it as it didnt cross the goal line. It definitely did cross.
October 14, 201213 yr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8GP6Dvz5Og You make the call... Actually he might not have gotten in anyways by looking at that. At the 4 second mark his left elbow is down, and looks like the ball has not crossed yet. So good call by the person who on here who said his elbow might have been down.
October 14, 201213 yr Author Did his left elbow hit the ground just as began stretching the ball over the goal line?Can't tell, it was close. On overhead it looked like he was on the legs of another player
October 14, 201213 yr There is no question that this is NOT a touchdown. Forward progress is NOT stopped, he never touches the ground. He crosses the plane with the football. This is not a question of a rule interpretation like on MNF, or a judgement call like on the infield fly in Atlanta. This is straightup BS. There is no way you can watch the replay and say it is anything but a touchdown. I am not a fan of either team. This comment I'm about to make is over used in sports, but Stanford got SCREWED and should be kicking an extra point. "@MikePereira- We have looked at ND/STA last play from every angle & feel that it is a TD. Progress was not ruled & runner was not down. Ball broke plane." -Former Vice President of Officiating in NFL. Current Rules Analyst at FOX Sports.
October 14, 201213 yr Notre Dame was good, but also lucky vs. Stanford - College Football News | FOX Sports on MSN
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