October 3, 201214 yr It's not really even an argument. YOUR WRONG. Based on RIVALS for recruiting of a year. Boise St 2010 3star players (6) 4star (1) 2011 11 (3star players) 0 (4 star) 2012 13 (3 star) 0 (4star) Kentucky 2010 18 (3star) 1 (4 star) 2011 21 (3 star) 1 (4star) 2012 21 (3 star) 1 (4 star) Total for 3 years Boise 23 (3star) 1 (4star) KY 60 (3star) 3 (4star)
October 3, 201214 yr Boise is not the Boise State of the past few years. Here's a reach and my guess is he will need a job after this year and he has Kentucky ties. Rex Ryan
October 3, 201214 yr Boise St is in the top 25, they are pretty good. I bet they beat KY if they played.
October 3, 201214 yr Boise St is in the top 25, they are pretty good. I bet they beat KY if they played. That's not saying much...
October 3, 201214 yr YOUR WRONG. Based on RIVALS for recruiting of a year. Boise St 2010 3star players (6) 4star (1) 2011 11 (3star players) 0 (4 star) 2012 13 (3 star) 0 (4star) Kentucky 2010 18 (3star) 1 (4 star) 2011 21 (3 star) 1 (4star) 2012 21 (3 star) 1 (4 star) Total for 3 years Boise 23 (3star) 1 (4star) KY 60 (3star) 3 (4star) 2012 NFL Draft Boise - 6 (2 first rounders) KY - 2 (both in the 6th round) 2011 NFL Draft Boise - 3 Ky - 1 2010 NFL Draft Boise - 1 Ky - 3 You see a trend?
October 3, 201214 yr 2012 NFL Draft Boise - 6 (2 first rounders) KY - 2 (both in the 6th round) 2011 NFL Draft Boise - 3 Ky - 1 2010 NFL Draft Boise - 1 Ky - 3 You see a trend? Yes, Boise can coach good kids into great players. KY has always done their 4 or 5 star players awful. example, Boyd this year was a recruit everyone wanted, doesnt even start till his SR yr. Is he an underachiever or product of poor coaching.
October 3, 201214 yr Very tough situation. I just don't know if any coach can get this ship righted. Maybe a big name? It all comes down to recruiting. KY D1 kids are not the answer. Very few, KY kids are SEC top level talent. Yes you do need to get the very small few that may be, but the base of the recruiting needs to be in the talent laden states. Florida, Georgia, Texas, etc. Tough task indeed. Agree about the limited number of top level Ky D1 kids. But UK has, just has, to get more of those few who can play in the SEC. Best recruiting line I, as a coach of another school recruiting against UK, would use to recruit a kid from, say, Ga.: "Why would you want to go to UK? The best players from Kentucky don't even go to UK. If a native son doesn't want to go to UK, why would you?"
October 3, 201214 yr Yes, Boise can coach good kids into great players. KY has always done their 4 or 5 star players awful. example, Boyd this year was a recruit everyone wanted, doesnt even start till his SR yr. Is he an underachiever or product of poor coaching. You said Boise had less talent. Whether they are higher rated recruits doesn't matter once they get to the school. By admitting that Boise is developing their players better you are saying they have more talent.
October 3, 201214 yr You said Boise had less talent. Whether they are higher rated recruits doesn't matter once they get to the school. By admitting that Boise is developing their players better you are saying they have more talent. I'm about 100% sure he is saying UK has better talent coming in, and Boise has better talent going out. Meaning that UK doesn't know how to turn very good talented players into great talented players. Boise on the other hand take good talent, turns it into great talent; even has several drafted along the way.
October 3, 201214 yr I'm about 100% sure he is saying UK has better talent coming in, and Boise has better talent going out. Meaning that UK doesn't know how to turn very good talented players into great talented players. Boise on the other hand take good talent, turns it into great talent; even has several drafted along the way. This. And program success always influences the draft position of individual player (see UK basketball).
October 4, 201214 yr IMO, Joker did exactly what he should have done, redshirt Towles and put Whitlow as the #3, behind Smith and Newton, in hopes that Smith stayed healthy and the #2 would not get too many snaps. Joker has also clearly stated that Whitlow earned the #3 spot over Towles. By saying that, he and the coaching staff felt Whitlow gave them a better chance to win at this particular time. That doesn't mean they felt Towles was always going to be buried on the depth chart, just that he wasn't as far along as the others. I would say Whitlow played much, much better competition on a week to week basis than Towles did, in HS and I believe Joker and staff feel that Towles has the best upside, thus wanting 2 years seperation between he and Smith.. Anyone who doesn't see this, imo, is nuts.. It makes perfect sense.. The cog in all this has been Newton. I think the staff has definately seen what his weaknesses were and was hoping he could continue to get better and fill the #2 role, but, clearly he's unable to do that, so, Whitlow got pushed into action. Had Smith only had an injury that was going to keep him out a game or 2, the Towles redshirt wouldn't have been lifted, but, unfortunately, it didn't turn out that way and they're now forced too, unfortunately.. I would still only play Towles if I absolutely had too(injury to Whitlow) and try my best to keep the redshirt on him, but, chances are, thats not gonna happen..
October 4, 201214 yr I'm about 100% sure he is saying UK has better talent coming in, and Boise has better talent going out. Meaning that UK doesn't know how to turn very good talented players into great talented players. Boise on the other hand take good talent, turns it into great talent; even has several drafted along the way. Glad someone understands, UK has more talent coming in than Boise, but Boise has more going out than UK
October 4, 201214 yr You think Joker was going to say Towles is the 2nd best QB on the roster after camp, but we are sitting him this year anyway? LOLZZZZZ
October 4, 201214 yr Joker said he wishes both of the frosh QBs would have consistently watched film all season and not wait until they got close to playing time. He says they both started showing up for extra film just this week. Coach Woodson says PT runs better than people think and that Whitlow throws better than people think.
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