One thing I will say is BB is just to late to football. The kids from St Joe and St Mary grew up watching their neighbors brothers cousins wearing the blue and gold and thats been a life goal of theirs. Their dad played for NewCath so thats where they want to go and play. Secondly you could go to BB and struggle or NewCath and have a chance to be a stste champ year in and year out. I woyld rather be part of a winning program than one only winning a small amount of games a year vs very small bad teams. I wish the Mustangs luck but IMO the football program should have never happened.

 

As an observer of this BB football "experiment" from the beginning, I will disagree with this statement emphatically!!

 

First, the timing was way off--They should have started this in the '98-'00 timeframe when it was first championed; as the athlete pool was much better at that point, and the competition for players wasn't nearly as strong. BB had some very good classes of athletes come through the school from the late 90's through '07; and had football been an option, who knows where this program could be??

 

Second, when they did finally start football in '06, it should have played out much differently, using the model of say Walton Verona IMO; where you start with a group of younger players (say middle school?) and bring them up together playing a progressive schedule (frosh, JV then varsity as they reach junior/senior year). Work hard to keep the interest in the program at the lower levels to restock the ranks, and you should have expectations for longterm success. Unfortunately, the rush to varsity play proved to be just as suicidal as many had predicted!

 

Thirdly, bad luck/planning hasn't helped matters. The team was building some modicum of success when the rug got ripped out with the move to 2-A based on older numbers. Biggest problem was this pitted them directly against their biggest rival for kids in NCC, who obviously already had a winning tradition in place. In single A the Beechies would still have provided a huge mountain to climb, but they were becoming competitive with the other district foes; and most importantly seldom were in competition with these schools for players. The resurgence of Campbell County's program and the economic slowdown causing drops in overall private school enrollments further compounded the problems. Lots of coaching changes (early with the head coaches, and later with a assistant merry-go-round) haven't helped; but again success begets success, and it's just not an attractive option for players or coaches right now?

 

Real question--Where to go now?? It's hard to find another win on the schedule; and the fact there's only 20-22 on the roster in grades 10-12 isn't very encouraging?? To their (and the coaches & fan's) credit, the kids flat won't quit; but is there the same commitment from the school & administration to football??

Perspective - should Dayton abandon football? Should Ludlow? Those schools have struggled and their programs have been around a long time. Brossart will be ok if they stick with it. But as I said above, I think a new coach that can inject energy into the program would help things a lot.

Anathema - a thing or person damned or cursed. a thing or person greatly detested. a formal curse, as in excommunication .

 

Really? Is that what you believe?

yes

yes

 

Anathema - as a teacher at a public school, it is interesting to see that you think so highly of the work that I do. :eek:

Anathema - as a teacher at a public school, it is interesting to see that you think so highly of the work that I do. :eek:

 

Anathema is too strong a word for most Catholic families, but not too far off either. I don't think it has anything to do with your work.

 

One, a faith based Catholic education is what is important. It is the education the parent(s) in these families received and it is what they want for their children.

 

Two, it is social selectiveness in the sense that private/Catholic schools can control who their students are. I heard a parent the other day talking about a kid in a Catholic elementary school who was unruly and would not pay attention in class. The kid is now gone from the school and the other Catholic parents listening to this story liked that.

 

Neither of those have anything to do with the quality of education or the teachers. I know someone who has taught for more than 10 years in a Catholic high school and a large public high school. When I asked for a comparison of the two, the reply was you can get just as good an education in the large public high school as you can at the Catholic school ... but it is more of a challenge because the Catholic school can kick out students they don't want. In fact, the public school had better facilities and resources but the students that were there that don't want to learn are a distraction that hurts the learning environment.

Anathema is too strong a word for most Catholic families, but not too far off either. I don't think it has anything to do with your work.

 

One, a faith based Catholic education is what is important. It is the education the parent(s) in these families received and it is what they want for their children.

 

Two, it is social selectiveness in the sense that private/Catholic schools can control who their students are. I heard a parent the other day talking about a kid in elementary school who was unruly and would not pay attention in class. The kid is now gone from the school and the other Catholic parents listening to this story liked that.

 

Neither of those have anything to do with the quality of education or the teachers. I know someone who has taught for more than 10 years in a Catholic high school and a large public high school. When I asked for a comparison of the two, the reply was you can get just as good an education in the large public high school as you can at the Catholic school ... but it is more of a challenge because the Catholic school can kick out students they don't want. In fact, the public school had better facilities and resources but the students that were there that don't want to learn are a distraction that hurts the learning environment.

 

There are many families that feel that religious education is their responsibility, not the school, so choose to send their child to a public school for what could be a variety of reasons.

 

You are right - public schools accept all children. It's somewhat ironic that faith based schools, who supposedly represent Jesus Christ who accepted all children, do not.

 

Not all public schools have distraction challenges as a result of educating all children. My school is one of those that does not because we have worked hard at creating an environment of academics. It's almost October and I haven't had to write one disciplinary referral or call the first parent for disciplinary reasons.

 

But I apologize for moving the thread off topic. Congrats to NCC for winning and congrats to Bishop Brossart for continuing to play hard. In the end, it's not about winning and losing games, but making young men better adults. If you're doing that, then football is worth it regardless of the record at the end of the season.

Just wanted them to have a faith based Catholic education , like my parents provided for me. Couldn't get that in a public school .

Anathema - as a teacher at a public school, it is interesting to see that you think so highly of the work that I do. :eek:

I am sure you are a fine teacher , in a public school .

I am sure you are a fine teacher , in a public school .

 

I am very happy w the education that my children have gotten at Woodfill.

Your entitled to your opinion. I treat what I post on this site as I would do in the company of others, whether it is the "politically correct" thing to say or not.

I don't even know the kid, but you sure seem to get your kicks from acting like a "Washer Women" who loves to deal in anything that could result in "sensationalism". You would be a great political pundit. I'm sure you are just itching for someone to bite on your invite for a PM so you can spread the word.

I think if we praise these kids like gods for play on the field why not call them out for making "major mistakes" the point of adults is to help young kids become great adults not kiss their butts when it comes to sports then if they do something wrong just sweep it under the rug. With that I am done with this thread. Goodbye

BGH this thread needs you.

I don't even know the kid, but you sure seem to get your kicks from acting like a "Washer Women" who loves to deal in anything that could result in "sensationalism". You would be a great political pundit. I'm sure you are just itching for someone to bite on your invite for a PM so you can spread the word.

 

No, I'm just not shy about posting the GOOD, the BAD, or the UGLY! And I don't want to hear, "they are minors", that will never fly with me. Nobody has a problem when it comes to praising athletes on this site, however the moment they do something bad the majority don't say a "peep". Just like KentuckyJoe said, " if we praise these kids like gods for play on the field why not call them out for making "major mistakes" the point of adults is to help young kids become great adults not kiss their butts when it comes to sports then if they do something wrong just sweep it under the rug". I understand high school kids do stupid stuff and sometimes don't think, and they go against everything they are taught by their parents and teachers. For that matter, I did alot of dumb things back in my high school days I was lucky I just didn't get caught.

 

If it were my kid in this situation I'd have no problem with ANYONE posting about, hell I'd do it myself. And by the way, the PM's I got, they already knew about it and were only confirming things.

I'm sure by the time you got second, third and even fourth hand information that it was distorted to some degree. I know there are only a select few that know the whole truth and I would be surprised if it were anyone on here.

As members of a Catholic Family it is anathema to attend a public school .

 

Very disappointing to know that while my wife, 4 kids and I are celebrating mass with you each Sunday at St Therese you detest us and think we are cursed because we send our kids to public school.