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Reds at Indians Series 6/18/2012 thru 6/20/2012

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Anthony Castrovince: Reds pay heavy price to acquire Mat Latos | MLB.com: News

 

Okay so I found this article and apparently the trade market was pretty bare so the Reds must of thought there wasnt much to pick from...The Reds wanted to acquire a top end guy to go along with Cueto and they pulled the plug on Latos or else another team probably would have...Once again I agree with the link that the Reds overpayed for Latos though and thats why I was kind of curious if they considered anyone else like say a Gio Gonzalez especially with the Reds lack of a left handed starter...

Castrovince bought into the Alonso hype ... Volquez was damaged goods and Boxberger is a reliever with some control issues. Grandal is the only guy with the potential to swing the deal squarely in the Padres' favor.

 

You have to give up something to get something ... and in this case, it was more quantity than quality. Really, the Reds didn't give up as much as one would think at first glance.

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So he threw 1 off speed pitch.

 

Looks like he threw 11 pitches. 8 Fastballs, 2 changeups, and 1 slider. Not much of a changeup when the difference is only 1 MPH.

I think the Tribe got in Chapmans head last night. They seem to be pretty proficient in gamesmanship.

Looks like he threw 11 pitches. 8 Fastballs, 2 changeups, and 1 slider. Not much of a changeup when the difference is only 1 MPH.

 

IF the changeups were only one mph different,call it what you want,it still wouldn't fool the hitter.

It didn't matter if he threw all fastballs. If he threw all sliders. If he took his friggin glove off and threw it right handed. He couldn't find the plate. When you're struggling to keep it in the zone, and playing cat and mouse with Choo at first base, you eventually leave it in the zone at 96, major league hitters are gonna whack you. And he did, and he's human, and he didn't have his best velocity tonight and it didn't matter if he was in the 10th, or if he was in the 4th.

The main problem with Chapman is that he can't throw strikes. He is leaving everthing high and outside to a RH batter and nearly bounces pitches all the time. The most important pitch is the first strike and he is having trouble with it. counts 2-0 and 3-0 before a strike is thrown makes that fastball easier to hit.

I think the Tribe got in Chapmans head last night. They seem to be pretty proficient in gamesmanship.

 

A lot of that comes from the guy at the head of the bench.

It was a really bad bunt.

 

From a really bad player imo who doesn't deserve a roster spot.

It didn't matter if he threw all fastballs. If he threw all sliders. If he took his friggin glove off and threw it right handed. He couldn't find the plate. When you're struggling to keep it in the zone, and playing cat and mouse with Choo at first base, you eventually leave it in the zone at 96, major league hitters are gonna whack you. And he did, and he's human, and he didn't have his best velocity tonight and it didn't matter if he was in the 10th, or if he was in the 4th.

 

Now that teams don't know the game is over when he comes in does he still have to be the closer?

The main problem with Chapman is that he can't throw strikes. He is leaving everthing high and outside to a RH batter and nearly bounces pitches all the time. The most important pitch is the first strike and he is having trouble with it. counts 2-0 and 3-0 before a strike is thrown makes that fastball easier to hit.

 

You hit the nail on the head. Look at batters averages when they get ahead 2-0 in the count versus 0-1 and 0-2.

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From a really bad player imo who doesn't deserve a roster spot.

 

Cozart doesn't deserve a roster spot? You've officially lost any and all credibility you've ever had in regards to baseball.

From a really bad player imo who doesn't deserve a roster spot.

 

Cozart doesnt deserve a spot? Do tell.

Now that teams don't know the game is over when he comes in does he still have to be the closer?
Yes. It will give you something to whine about.
Castrovince bought into the Alonso hype ... Volquez was damaged goods and Boxberger is a reliever with some control issues. Grandal is the only guy with the potential to swing the deal squarely in the Padres' favor.

 

You have to give up something to get something ... and in this case, it was more quantity than quality. Really, the Reds didn't give up as much as one would think at first glance.

 

Boxberger is also only 24 years old and in his first year above AAA. Grandal is a switch hitter. I'll bet if you ask 1000 people today the vast majority would tell you that it looks like a bad deal. Look at these stats year-to-date and remember that Volquez pitches for the worst team in baseball so the record is going to be pretty bad. Eerily similar to this point.

 

GS QS CG W L K BBi INN HA ERA WHIP

Latos 14 5 0 5 2 70 26 79.2 86 5.20 1.41

Volquez 15 8 0 3 7 76 51 87.2 73 4.11 1.41

Cozart doesn't deserve a roster spot? You've officially lost any and all credibility you've ever had in regards to baseball.

 

Cozart doesnt deserve a spot? Do tell.

Gonna have to agree with these. Come on EZ, surely you can't be serious.

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