May 1, 201214 yr I have no problem with the President using this. Osama bin Laden deserved to be brought to justice & Obama was the one who green-lighted the attack that led to bin Laden's demise. I personally give him credit for that. In fact, I think he would be foolish not to use it. What I did hear that I didn't like was that Obama allegedly has a campaign ad essentially saying that Mitt Romney would not have done the same thing. I haven't seen the ad, but just heard some rumblings about it. If it's true, I think that is in very poor taste & the President should be criticized. Has anyone else seen this, or can anyone verify/refute this? I haven't seen that ad either. I've seen some quotes that have resurfaced from 2008 when McCain was criticizing Obama for saying he would go into Pakistan to get OBL if need be. Romney said he disagreed with Obama on that as well. I don't know if that's part of the ad or not.
May 1, 201214 yr "Mission Accomplished" - Romney said in 2008 that he would not go into another country and get someone. I haven't seen that ad either. I've seen some quotes that have resurfaced from 2008 when McCain was criticizing Obama for saying he would go into Pakistan to get OBL if need be. Romney said he disagreed with Obama on that as well. I don't know if that's part of the ad or not. Thanks.
May 1, 201214 yr No, the courts made the decision. President Obama doesn't run the judicial system. Who said he couldn't release the photos? Just curious because I hadn't read that anywhere. To be honest I haven't really tried to find it anywhere either.
May 1, 201214 yr If you thin he shouldnt take SOME credit for this. Then how can you place blame on everything else?
May 1, 201214 yr "Mission Accomplished" - Romney said in 2008 that he would not go into another country and get someone.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't have either. If you want other countries to respect our sovereignity, you have to respect their's. Our relations with Pakistan have taken a big, big hit as a result of this matter. Last thing we need to do is lose an ally in that region. Killing OBL may turn out to be one of those "we won the battle, but it caused us to lose the war" type of things. And please, please do not tell me that I'd have been fine with it if Bush, McCain, etc. had pulled the trigger. I would not have been fine with it.
May 1, 201214 yr Author "Mission Accomplished" - Romney said in 2008 that he would not go into another country and get someone. Obama was also against raising the debt ceiling when Bush was Pres. But all of a sudden was for it when Pres. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED President Barack Obama “regrets” his vote against raising the debt ceiling when he was a senator and George W. Bush was president, White House press secretary Jay Carney said. “He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that even when you are protesting the administration’s policies you can play around with,” Mr. Carney said during Monday’s daily press briefing. Mr. Obama, who is now in Mr. Bush’s place and needs Congress to raise the ceiling or the U.S. will default on its debt, thinks his 2006 vote was a mistake, his aides have said
May 1, 201214 yr Obama was also against raising the debt ceiling when Bush was Pres. But all of a sudden was for it when Pres. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED President Barack Obama “regrets” his vote against raising the debt ceiling when he was a senator and George W. Bush was president, White House press secretary Jay Carney said. “He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that even when you are protesting the administration’s policies you can play around with,” Mr. Carney said during Monday’s daily press briefing. Mr. Obama, who is now in Mr. Bush’s place and needs Congress to raise the ceiling or the U.S. will default on its debt, thinks his 2006 vote was a mistake, his aides have said I know nothing of the debt ceiling argument but if a President realized he made a mistake wouldn't you rather he admit it? I also figured that once Obama got into the office and saw how things were that he might change his tune on a few things. It's easy to say how someone is doing things wrong until you take over for yourself and learn why that person made the hard decisions they had to make. Everybody is an armchair quarterback.
May 1, 201214 yr Bush Jr. did the same with Saddam Hussein I see your point but they were not exactly the same circumstances, were they? I wonder if people would have a problem if they had caught OBL in Afghanistan.
May 1, 201214 yr I know nothing of the debt ceiling argument but if a President realized he made a mistake wouldn't you rather he admit it? I also figured that once Obama got into the office and saw how things were that he might change his tune on a few things. It's easy to say how someone is doing things wrong until you take over for yourself and learn why that person made the hard decisions they had to make. Everybody is an armchair quarterback. Unfortunately, in the world of politics one isn't allowed to change their minds or positions without being labled a "flip-flopper" or an "etch-a-sketch" candidate. I have no issues with politicians saying, "I used to feel this way about "XYZ", but now I realize this is the better way because of....".
May 1, 201214 yr Unfortunately, in the world of politics one isn't allowed to change their minds or positions without being labled a "flip-flopper" or an "etch-a-sketch" candidate. I have no issues with politicians saying, "I used to feel this way about "XYZ", but now I realize this is the better way because of....". As to the "etch-a-sketch" I would argue that's completely different assuming you are referring to Mr Romney's campaign manager using the "etch-a-sketch" term. He essentially said "We'll say one thing in the primaries but that doesn't mean we mean it when it comes to winning the general election." Mr Romeny may find himself in the "I changed my mind " category when it comes to the killing of Bin Laden.
May 1, 201214 yr Ds and Rs were criticizing Candidate Obama in regards to foreign policy saying he wouldn't be "tough" or asking if we wanted him answering the 2:00 call. National Security has always been politicizied. This is no different. It's no different than Gov Romney standing in a firehouse in NYC that lost a lot of firefighters on 9.11 and standing there with Rudy G. It was a big deal. It's going to be mentioned.
May 1, 201214 yr What other horn do you expect him to "toot"? Forcing healthcare on the nation? Running up the national debt to trillions and trillions? Maybe the robust economy? I'm not trying to be arguementative but he really has little to brag about.
May 1, 201214 yr What other horn do you expect him to "toot"? Forcing healthcare on the nation? Running up the national debt to trillions and trillions? Maybe the robust economy? I'm not trying to be arguementative but he really has little to brag about. It will certainly take some spin to tout economic success. My guess is we'll see something about energy ie US oil consumption down while supply up. US troops withdrawing from Iraq and soon Afghanistan. I'm sure the car companies will be mentioned. Probably something about green jobs created. I'd also expect to see Karl Rove run an ad showing President Obama saying he would be a one-term POTUS if he didn't get the economy turned around.
May 1, 201214 yr It will certainly take some spin to tout economic success. My guess is we'll see something about energy ie US oil consumption down while supply up. US troops withdrawing from Iraq and soon Afghanistan. I'm sure the car companies will be mentioned. Probably something about green jobs created. I'd also expect to see Karl Rove run an ad showing President Obama saying he would be a one-term POTUS if he didn't get the economy turned around. If Romney is smart he will hammer home the economic issues and I think he is smart. Plus, if Romney has a strength it is economics.
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